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So the stalks can be used instead of the ears, that's efficient.

Karen Tellefsen - Electrical Testing
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From:   Douglas Pauls <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:   12/04/2012 09:56 AM
Subject:        Re: [TN] FW: [TN] FW: [TN] Farewell
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Switch grass does have a higher sugar content than corn.  The trouble is 
getting it out of the switch grass, or alternatively corn stalks.  There 
is a new plant coming on line in Iowa that is using corn stalks as the 
biomass.  The process involves enzymes and they have not found an 
"economical" enzyme that will digest switch grass.  More expensive ones 
will, but there is a lot of work being done in this area.  There is an 
estimated 153 million tons annually from switch grass and crop residues.

That is why you don't see (yet) switch grass production replacing 
corn-based ethanol.  Not because the corn farmers pitched a fit.  Well, 
maybe the Nebraska ones did.  They are much more excitable than the calm 
and collected Iowa farmers.

Doug Pauls



From:   "Goodyear, Patrick" <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:   12/04/2012 08:40 AM
Subject:        Re: [TN] FW: [TN] FW: [TN] Farewell
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Ok here is one.  I understand that Switch Grass (native to the prairie) 
has a sugar content higher than corn and is faster growing, it WAS being 
considered for ethanol production but the corn farmers had a fit.   Switch 

grass is related to sugar cane.  From talking to friends that grew up on 
the prairie the switch grass is a pain to deal with, it grows rapidly and 
everywhere. 

Pat 
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ahne Oosterhof
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 8:13 PM
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Subject: [TN] FW: [TN] FW: [TN] Farewell

In the program, made by Ken Burns for PBS about the dust storms it was 
mentioned that a lot of the land was reseeded with native grasses and 
plants to return them to the earlier state that was able to withstand the 
sometimes occurring droughts, thereby preventing future dust storms.
So the areas had been plowed, but are now back to "native grass lands", or 

prairies.

Ahne.

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ahmad, Syed
Sent: 03 December, 2012 12:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] FW: [TN] Farewell

I watched a program on PBS only a few days ago about prairie and they were 

showing virgin lands seemed like never disturbed. You may check listings 
to find out the program. They probably will repeat it sometime or may have 

its videos available to view.

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Kondner
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 2:18 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] FW: [TN] Farewell

Richard,

 You mentioned "Native Prairie" and in made me recall a Nova or Nature 
show about native prairie grasses and vegetation. 

 Do you know if there are any areas that have never been plowed? I was 
curious if there had been any attempts to re-establish native vegetation 
and how that vegetation might be different from today's.

Bob K.

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 2:32 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] FW: [TN] Farewell

About 20% of Minnesota is native prairie, primarily the southwestern 
portion.
I can attest, for the Stadem (Stadheim) family, Kessey's values of turn 
and turnabout are particularly ingrained.
There are all kinds of examples of this in the Stadem family website and 
in the South Dakota Historical Society. The story of how the first 16 
Norwegian families of came over, overwintered near Winnipeg during which 
at least 25 of them died, and their subsequent travels the following 
spring to the DeSmet and Lake Preston area where they settled and farmed 
still humble me and fill me with awe in how they overcame the trials and 
tribulations by helping each other selflessly. One must remember this was 
a full 50 years before the first pioneers crossed from the original 13 
colonies. They lived in sod houses, some of which are still preserved and 
standing to this day on my relative's land. 
Not only did they practice turn and turnabout within the 16 original 
families, but they extended this practice to the native American Indians 
as well, and they lived in peace with them for at least 40 years. It was 
not until the buffalo hunters, gold miners, and Packer fans came that the 
troubles began.

-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Ramsey [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 12:26 PM
To: 'TechNet E-Mail Forum'; Stadem, Richard D.
Subject: RE: [TN] FW: [TN] Farewell

In his book "Sometimes a Great Notion" Ken Kessey proposed that those 
leaving the east and stalling in prairie either died or helped each other.
The resulting values remain today. Minnesota isn't quite the prairie, but 
the truth in Kessey's theory may apply. 


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2012 10:15 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] FW: [TN] Farewell

I have often wondered why most people in Minnesota, South Dakota, and 
North Dakota are so friendly and eager to help others. I have noticed that 

people who share an affliction have more sympathy and look out for each 
other.
That's when I decided it must be because most of us are Vikings fans. :(


From: Larry Dzaugis [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Friday, November 30, 2012 4:26 PM
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; Stadem, Richard D.
Subject: Re: [TN] FW: [TN] Farewell

If only the water walking was not Oct 1st to May 15th.

Anyplace that sends out notices that the fishing shacks have to be off the 

ice in March and bets when a car breaks through the ice is a cold land.

Fortunetly the citizens are warm to outsiders as well as their neighbors.



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