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Hi Joyce - modern board immersion finishes (silver, tin, palladium, gold) 
are not self limiting in the manner you describe so XRF is an appropriate 
methodology.  I agree with your details but pwb surface finishes don't 
fall into that category. We routinely test pwb surface finishes with XRF 
with no issues. Of course, we use calibrated standards as you detailed.

Dave



From:   Joyce Koo <[log in to unmask]>
To:     "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>, 
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Date:   11/01/2012 05:08 PM
Subject:        Re: [TN] ImAg thickness measurement / verification methods



Immersion is self limiting process, depend upon exposed based metal 
without contamination on the surface. If the surface is rough, you got 
more surface area, on XRF, the reading would be high compare to the 
relatively smooth flat surface. It depends surface roughness compare to 
the calibration std (usually smooth). My 2 cents. I am piggy (picky). 
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From: [log in to unmask] [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 05:30 PM
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>; Joyce Koo 
Subject: Re: [TN] ImAg thickness measurement / verification methods 
 
Hi Joyce - Kevin has flat circuit boards and it was recommended that he 
must use calibrated standards. On what point is there a disagreement? 

Dave 



From:        Joyce Koo <[log in to unmask]> 
To:        <[log in to unmask]> 
Date:        11/01/2012 09:58 AM 
Subject:        Re: [TN] ImAg thickness measurement / verification methods 

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Sorry to disagree. It only works with proper calibration std and your 
specimen plating is relatively flat.  If your surface is very rough, you 
got error in reading (unless you use another method to validate)
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----- Original Message -----
From: Kevin Glidden [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 10:35 AM
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [TN] ImAg thickness measurement / verification methods

Thanks, everyone, for your responses.  It appears XRF is a valid tool for 
measuring ImAg thickness.

I still have a need to have a few PCB samples analyzed.  I have some PCBs 
that show ImAg copper-like discoloration after only 1 reflow cycle on the 
non-populated side.  I would like to confirm what this discoloration is, 
and investigate / confirm if it is due to ImAg plating thickness or 
porosity issues.

Offline responses ok.
Thank you.

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