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Doug,
Any chance the application of the coating could be done in an enclosure with
a very high humidity to alleviate the problem of having to worry about ESD?
Bev

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Douglas Pauls
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:22 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] ESD Heat Shrink Sleeving

You are all determined to pull info out of me.  To go a little further:

Like many places, our ESD practices, rooted firmly in the past, has 
specified natural bristled brushes to be used in conformal coating 
practices.  Because "natural fibers" are "safe".  Consequently, we use a 
lot of camel hair, sable, ox hair, etc.
A few years ago, I began working with a synthetic bristled brush, where 
the bristles were made of Taklon.  Since I was using them with a water 
based coating, and because the fibers were always surrounded by a 
conductive media, there were not ESD issues.
Anyone who has used natural fiber brushes with a harsh solvent like 
toluene knows that they degrade pretty fast.  Taklon is very chemically 
resistant.  Many issues would "go away" if I could use the more chemically 
resistant Taklon fibers to apply 1B31.
But, that means I now have a synthetic/insulative  bristle with an 
insulative coating.  ESD concern rears its ugly head.  We did ESD testing 
and found that the static threat comes NOT from the bristles, but from the 
wooden painted handles.

I could use metal handles to solve my ESD problem, but they don't come in 
Taklon.
So, I look for a way to eliminate the ESD generation potential on the 
painted handles, without resorting to any of the liquid coatings that are 
attacked by the toluene solvent.

Doug Pauls



From:   "Glidden, Kevin" <[log in to unmask]>
To:     "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]>
Cc:     TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>
Date:   10/17/2012 02:07 PM
Subject:        RE: [TN] ESD Heat Shrink Sleeving



Oh! 
 
How about: 
 
http://www.gordonbrush.com/anti-static-brushes.html
 
(not an endorsement, no experience, no vested interest ? just a quick 
Google search)
 
Kevin Glidden
 
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Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 3:00 PM
To: Glidden, Kevin
Cc: TechNet E-Mail Forum
Subject: RE: [TN] ESD Heat Shrink Sleeving
 
Kevin and others, 
I should have been a little more specific in my request.  In addition to 
the liquid coatings people have suggested, there is an ESD version of 
Plastisol that works as well.  Here is the problem: 

Almost all of these liquid materials come in a toluene/xylene (or similar) 
carrier, or toluene/xylene is specified as the clean up agent if you 
spill.  The material I would be painting on is Humiseal 1B31, which is in 
a toluene carrier.  I would be afraid that the ESD coating would dissolve 
in the solvent and contaminate my 1B31 coating.  That is why I wanted to 
go heat shrink, rather than some form of liquid material that could be 
dissolved. 

Doug Pauls 



From:        "Glidden, Kevin" <[log in to unmask]> 
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Date:        10/17/2012 01:19 PM 
Subject:        RE: [TN] ESD Heat Shrink Sleeving 




 Never heard of such a thing....but what about a dip in ESD floor paint?


-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Pauls [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:09 PM
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Subject: [TN] ESD Heat Shrink Sleeving

Good afternoon all,

I wonder if any of you know of  a heat shrinkable sleeving that would be 
in the static dissipative range for volume resistivity?  This would be 
between 1E6 and 1E9 ohm-cm.  Most of the ones that I am aware of are 1E11 
ohm-cm or higher.

I don't know of any, so I thought I would turn to my favorite forum. 

The application is paint brush handles.  Since most brushes are painted 
wood, they can generate static.  We thought having a shrinkable ESD cover, 
vs. some of the liquid coatings, would be a possible solution.

Doug Pauls


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