At that rate LEDs would really start to sound attractive.
Olav
On 8/29/2012 5:19 AM, Brian Ellis wrote:
> Since last year's explosion, where the government blew up our main
> power station we have what must be one of the most expensive
> electricity tariffs in the world. If I take the bottom line of our
> last bill and divide it by the kWh consumed, it works out at
> €0.283/kWh. CFLs for ever!
>
> Brian
>
> On 29/08/2012 15:06, Karen Tellefsen wrote:
>> CFL's do use less power, so whether they are cost effective or not
>> depends
>> on the cost of power.
>>
>> Karen Tellefsen - Electrical Testing
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>>
>> From: Steven Creswick <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>,
>> Date: 08/28/2012 07:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: [TN] what is the reliability of CFLs and LEDs as
>> incandescent light bulb replacements?
>> Sent by: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>>
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> I can't say that my early experience with CFL's was all that good - high
>> cost, early/immediate failure, non-existent disposal infrastructure,
>> definite fire hazards, and bulbs that illuminated the room like a
>> singular
>> tiny birthday candle - poorly.
>>
>> More recent CFL's appear to be more reliable, but I remain cautious
>> about
>> the type of fixture they are utilized in. Disposal infrastructure is
>> still
>> very weak, with all the burden falling upon the consumer.
>>
>> Strangely, some of the best results I've had with 'CFL's' is with the
>> reflector/floodlight version where the entire bulb is contained
>> within the
>> glass envelope, similar to the conventional incandescent flood light. I
>> have 4 of them in my 'woodshed' that surrounds my outdoor boiler. They
>> operate ON & OFF all year long - steaming hot Summer and bitter cold
>> Winter
>> [although in the Winter-time they seem agonizingly slow to warm up.
>> Their
>> cool glow is complemented by the how glow of the coals in the stove :-)
>> ].
>> The bulbs have been in intermittent use for 4 years, and are still going
>> strong ...
>>
>> Use of a conventional open coil CFL's in outdoor fixtures is futile.
>>
>> The last four sentences of Phil's second article pretty much say it all.
>> Reminds me of the push for Pb-Free - a great deal of hand-waving and
>> smoke
>> &
>> mirrors. Very much a 'feel good' type of justification, rather than
>> science/math.
>>
>> IMHO - Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Landman
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:29 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [TN] what is the reliability of CFLs and LEDs as incandescent
>> light
>> bulb replacements?
>>
>> A very interesting discussion about what's inside these new devices.
>> Have
>> any of you torn one of them apart to see how well they are made? You'll
>> be
>> amazed at the poor quality of the components in a lamp that's
>> supposed to
>> have a 10 year life.
>>
>> -Bob Landman
>>
>> IFTLE 98 Lester the Lightbulb vs CFL and LED : the Saga Continues By Dr
>> Phil
>> Garrou
>>
>> In IFTLE 63 [ see IFTLE 63, "Bidding Adieu to Lester Lightbulb
>> http://www.electroiq.com/blogs/insights_from_leading_edge/2011/08/iftle-63-b
>>
>>
>> idding-adieu-to-lester-lightbulb.html] back in Aug 2011 IFTLE
>> attempted to
>> make the case that our little 25 cent friend Lester the incandescent
>> bulb
>> had gotten a bump rap as he awaited extinction on death row.
>>
>> It's not that the claims of the newer technologies (CFL and LED) using
>> less
>> power than incandescent bulbs are invalid, but rather what appears to be
>> the
>> bold faced lie that their much greater cost is compensated by their
>> decades
>> long lifetimes that upsets all Lester supporters.
>>
>> http://www.electroiq.com/blogs/insights_from_leading_edge/2012/04/iftle-98-l
>>
>>
>> ester-the-lightbulb-vs-cfl-and-led-the-saga-continues.html
>>
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