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Just wonder how flexible the flex circuits (or flex backplane circuit?) with a 10oz copper design. 

Regards
Geok Ang
(Office: 68712393)


-----Original Message-----
From: James Mahoney [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Thursday, 26 July 2012 9:47 PM
To: Tan Geok Ang; TechNet E-Mail Forum
Subject: RE: [TN] 10 oz Cu PCB Assys

Not handy! What are you trying to do?

Thank you, Jim Mahoney
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tan Geok Ang [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 8:37 AM
To: TechNet E-Mail Forum; James Mahoney
Subject: RE: [TN] 10 oz Cu PCB Assys

Do you have a few pictures of that?

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Sent: Wednesday, 25 July, 2012 7:29:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] 10 oz Cu PCB Assys

It's pretty standard to process .010"thk copper for power flex circuits etc.....

Thank you, Jim Mahoney
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-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 7:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] 10 oz Cu PCB Assys

Hi Bob,

I don't remember exactly how the board was constructed, but I'm pretty sure it wasn't etched. Copper that thick can be plated up. There's a company called UPE ( http://www.upe-inc.com/ ) that can plate up to 200 oz. copper!

This board was machined down around the edges to expose the copper plane, it went into a VME rack that pulled the heat from the board into the rack.

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Kondner
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 1:35 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] 10 oz Cu PCB Assys

Steve,

 Is a thick layer like that actually etched or is it a machined / stamped item that is part of the final stackup then plate through process?

Thanks,
Bob K.


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2012 7:50 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] 10 oz Cu PCB Assys

Hi Bill!

It's been a while, but I once built some boards that had two 20 oz. layers in them, one in layer 2, the other in layer 11 of a 12-layer board. Check
out:

http://stevezeva.homestead.com/HeavyMetal.jpg

http://stevezeva.homestead.com/HeavyMetal3.jpg

The SMT went surprisingly well. We had an Electrovert Omniflo-10 and the biggest thing I did was to slow my belt speed down from my normal 32-ipm to 26-ipm, the set-points on the zones was a pretty typical ramp-to-spike for tin lead solder. The copper actually seemed to help to even the heat across the PCB. Now the board is going to stay hotter for a longer time, I even think it was still liquidous for a split second while exiting the oven, but the reflow actually went pretty well.

Wave soldering was another story. We had selective pallets for these boards because there was SMT on both sides. The wave pre-heaters just couldn't heat everything up prior to the wave unless I slowed the belt speed to a crawl, which would mean that the board would spend WAY too much time over the wave.
So we wound up placing the pallet with the board into an oven to help get things preheated which helped a great deal with hole fill.

To even think about doing any sort of hand touch-up on a board with this much copper, pre-heat is absolutely necessary. We used Hakko's FR1012 IR pre-heaters, they worked great!

Steve

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Sent: Monday, July 23, 2012 7:42 PM
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Subject: [TN] 10 oz Cu PCB Assys

Hello Fellow TechNetters:

Can anyone share some information on processing SMD's on PCB's that have 10 oz. of Cu?

Difficulties in processing, lessons learned, etc.

Thank you all in advance,
Bill





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