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I think that the answer you seek is tongue in cheek !

cheers,
chuck...

Chuck Patten, PMP
Strictly personal opinion only...

-----Original Message-----
From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Landman
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 2:29 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [LF] [TN] Tonight on AC360: Toyota investigation "too narrow" - NTC

The trick is to tell a BIG lie and tell it often.  Then people begin to believe it.

Eventually, the truth comes out and the result is worse than if they'd confessed in the first place.

What we want to to know is what models/years used tin plating and SAC solder.

NASA said all Camry's 2002-2006 have the defective pedal assembly.  They were cut off in the study after they found whiskers to look at other models/years.  With no help from Toyota, it was very difficult to proceed.

The $64 question is why, when whiskers were found bu NASA, was funding suddenly cut off.

Bob

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On Jul 13, 2012, at 4:08 PM, Steven Creswick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Bob,
> 
> I'm sure that Toyota would like to continue to push the 'stupid 
> driver/wrong floormat' scenario.  This just came out today.
> 
> http://www.designnews.com/document.asp?doc_id=246991&cid=NL_Newsletter
> s+-+DN
> +Daily&dfpPParams=ind_184,industry_auto,aid_246991&dfpLayout=article
> 
> Steve
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Leadfree [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Landman
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 1:02 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [LF] [TN] Tonight on AC360: Toyota investigation "too narrow"
> 
> I misread the report I got and thought it was tonight.
> 
> I checked and saw there's a video of it on their website....
> 
> Here it is
> http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/bestoftv/2012/03/02/ac-griffin-toyota
> -inves
> tigation.cnn
> 
> Bob
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Landman
> Sent: Friday, July 13, 2012 11:41 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [TN] Tonight on AC360: Toyota investigation "too narrow"
> 
> Well, now, isn't this interesting ??
> 
> Bob Landman
> H&L Instruments, LLC
> LDF Coatings, LLC
> 
> Tonight on AC360: Toyota investigation "too narrow"
> http://ac360.blogs.cnn.com/2012/07/12/tonight-on-ac360-toyota-investig
> ation-
> too-narrow/
> The whistle-blowers also provided Grassley with documentation about 
> the investigations by NHTSA and NASA into the Toyota vehicles, 
> including one NASA report that stated: "Because proof that the 
> (electronic throttle-control systems) caused the reported ...
> 
> Senator questions findings in Toyota investigation 
> http://www.boston.com/cars/news/articles/2012/07/12/senator_questions_
> findin
> gs_in_toyota_investigation/
> Charles Grassley, an Iowa Republican, says key questions remain 
> unanswered about what caused Toyota's unintended acceleration 
> problems, despite investigations by NHTSA and NASA that found 
> electronic defects weren't to blame. Grassley questions ...
> 
> Senator raises questions about Toyota engine electronics
> http://www.9news.com/money/277353/344/Senator-raises-questions-about-T
> oyota-
> engine-electronics
> Charles Grassley, the Iowa Republican, sent a letter to National 
> Highway Traffic Safety Administration, questioning whether 
> investigations by NHTSA and NASA really, thoroughly answered all 
> questions about whether Toyota engine electronics might not ...
> 
> Senator questions results of Toyota safety probe
> http://bottomline.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/07/12/12706802-senator-ques
> tions-
> results-of-toyota-safety-probe?lite
> ... a letter to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, or 
> NHTSA, questioning the results of two studies conducted for the 
> agencies, in particular one done by NASA that found no evidence of 
> electronic gremlins that might cause Toyota ...
> 
> NASA's report is at this link
> http://nepp.nasa.gov/whisker/reference/tech_papers/2011-NASA-GSFC-whis
> ker-fa
> ilure-app-sensor.pdf
> Electrical Failure of an Accelerator Pedal Position Sensor Caused by a 
> Tin Whisker...
> Leidecker, Panashchenko, Brusse; CALCE 5th Internation Tin Whisker 
> Symposium
> 
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