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For Mil Std 883 Method 1010, conditions D, E, and possibly F would not apply to standard electronics, as the solder joints would melt under those conditions. Same for JEDEC JESD22-A104 method D and F. Correct?

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge Hernefjord
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:13 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] how to pass solder joint reliability of a 3.2 mm board (16 layers) for QFN packae

we tested for provoking failures for equipments that we must guarantee
minimum 20 years life. Either you can test lots of parts for a short time
(fewer cycles) or few parts under long periode (many cycles). We occupied a
temp cycling box for 1 1/2 year. Noone has done such a test before.
Personally, I regard these tests as exaggerated or even meaningless, but I
did not tell them. Myself, I had performed a step stress test. E.g. as
follows:

*Mil Std 883 Method 1010:*

- Must be conducted for a minimum of 10 cycles

-  Condition A: -55 (+0/-10) C to 85 (+10,-0) C

-  Condition B: -55 (+0/-10) C to 125 (+15,-0) C

-  Condition C: -65 (+0/-10) C to 150 (+15,-0) C

-  Condition D: -65 (+0/-10) C to 200 (+15,-0) C

-  Condition E: -65 (+0/-10) C to 300 (+15,-0) C

-  Condition F: -65 (+0/-10) C to 175 (+15,-0) C",

-  Total Transfer Time <= 1 minute

-  Total Dwell Time >= 10 minutes

-  Specified Temp reached in <= 15 minutes



*JEDEC JESD22-A104:*

-  Recommended for lot acceptance screen :  10 cycles

-  Recommended for qualification:  1000 cycles

-  Condition A: -55 (+0/-10) C to 85 (+10,-0) C

-  Condition B: -55 (+0/-10) C to 125 (+10,-0) C

-  Condition C: -65 (+0/-10) C to 150 (+10,-0) C

-  Condition D: -65 (+0/-10) C to 200 (+10,-0) C

-  Condition F: -65 (+0/-10) C to 175 (+10,-0) C

-  Condition G: -40 (+0/-10) C to 125 (+10,-0) C

-  Condition H: -55 (+0/-10) C to 150 (+10,-0) C

-  Total Transfer Time <= 1 minute

-  Total Dwell Time >= 10 minutes

-  Specified Temp reached in <= 15 minutes
Much, much better way

Inge


On 4 April 2012 17:35, grandrien <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> How can you peformed 100,000 cycles ? Cycles means slow heating/cooling
> rate, lower than 20 C/min. So each cycle should be minimum 30min, more
> probably about 1h. So it would represent 5 to 11 years.
> Where is my mistake ?
>
> ========================================
> Message du 03/04/12 20:25
> De : "Inge Hernefjord"
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> Objet : Re: [TN] how to pass solder joint reliability of a 3.2 mm board
> (16 layers) for QFN packae
>
>
> Can you develop your question so that a slow thinker like me can understand
> TMCL 1000 c on QFN8's is very mild, I suppose nothing will happen. I
> investigated QFN64's recently. They had passed 100,000 cycles with some few
> issues. This was a -55/125 C test.
> I think you should tell a little about the assembly, because that's what
> decides the result.
>
> Inge
>
> On 2 April 2012 18:55, jonathan noquil wrote:
>
> > Hi All
> >
> > Need some suggestions on how to handle solderjoint issue (How to tweak to
> > pass TMCL1000 cycles- 0 to 100C) on QFN packages ( 5 x 6 x 1.0 mm with 8
> > pins).
> > Finish is Pure Sn
> > Board is 16 layers 3.2 mm, HASL finish.
> >
> > Does someone had an experience to share?
> >
> > thanks
> >
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