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Yes.  That joint wasn't monitored, but it was there.  3mm center pad for the 32 pin, 5 mm for the 48, and 6 mm for the 68 pin.  All the parts had representative die that were the maximum size allowed for the package size.

On the subject of center pads, I did a test once where I purchased the same package with 3 different sized center pads.  Identical package outline and identical die, the only difference was the center pad size.  The pad on the board side was 1:1 with the package side with a grid of vias as would be typical in a real design.  Interestingly, the larger the center pad, the sooner the perimeter joints failed.  I don't remember whether they were QFNs or exposed pad TQFPs and I can't find where I put the data at the moment - several computers have come and gone since then.


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Subject: Re: [TN] how to pass solder joint reliability of a 3.2 mm board (16 layers) for QFN packae


Hi Scott - in your testing trials, have the QFNs had center pads (aka thermal/grounding pads) which were soldered down to the assembly?

Dave

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Re: [TN] how to pass solder joint reliability of a 3.2 mm board (16 layers) for QFN packae







100,000 cycles of -55/+125C?  Did the parts have representative die in them?

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge Hernefjord
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2012 2:24 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] how to pass solder joint reliability of a 3.2 mm board (16 layers) for QFN packae

Can you develop your question so that a slow thinker like me can understand
TMCL 1000 c on QFN8's is very mild, I suppose nothing will happen. I
investigated QFN64's recently. They had passed 100,000 cycles with some few
issues. This was a -55/125 C test.
I think you should tell a little about the assembly, because that's what
decides the result.

Inge

On 2 April 2012 18:55, jonathan noquil <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Need some suggestions on how to handle solderjoint issue (How to tweak to
> pass TMCL1000 cycles- 0 to 100C) on QFN packages ( 5 x 6 x 1.0 mm with 8
> pins).
> Finish is Pure Sn
> Board is 16 layers 3.2 mm, HASL finish.
>
> Does someone had an experience to share?
>
> thanks
>
>
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