Hi,

 Are there any spray on chemical indicator that can be used to detect for  activated flux? Something like a litmus or phenolphthalein solution?

Bob K.

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I agree 100% with Doug. The important point is to ensure that the carboxylic acids are sublimed. This starts to happen at temperatures around 180°C but it takes time as well as temperature. It is therefore essential to limit the quantity to the minimum necessary to do the job and confine to the joint area. What is positive is that soldering irons operate at a higher temperature than wave or reflow, so that residues that spread outside the joint area will probably be heated sufficiently to ensure sufficient sublimation. Another important point is to ensure that all the alcohol has evaporated before starting the retouch, so that the latent heat of evaporation would otherwise cool down the flux and allow it to spread before sublimation takes place. This requires the operator to wait a few minutes between dosing the flux and picking up the soldering iron. It is common to have a row of fluxed assemblies and, as one is added at one end, a circuit is picked up at the other end for soldering. I don't know whether it is still available, but a flux with a crimson dye showed where unheated flux was applied and was quite common in days of yore. The dye sublimated with the activators.

Brian

On 23/04/2012 16:42, Woolley, Mark D. (Mark) wrote:
> I have an issue with one of the assembly houses we use.  They are 
> using a No-clean flux that contains adipit and succinic acids (per the 
> MSDS) in an alcohol base.
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> Is it allowed to leave flux on the PWB that HAS NOT BEEN DEACTIVATED 
> BY HIGH TEMPERATURES OF SOLDERING?
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> I am not talking about the flux used in the solder paste or wave 
> soldered flus.  I am talking about the flux used at rework and 
> touch-up of the PWB.
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> I havce seen papers detailing corrosion on PWBs using "no-clean" 
> fluxes and I have seen it on some of our products.  This usually 
> pccurs near the periphery of the PWB where the wave solder flux is 
> protected by the pallet used to pass the PWB through the solder wave.
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> Any opinions and references will be appreciated.  I can give the 
> manufacturer and flux type to individuals, but don't want to put it in 
> a global email.
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> Thanks
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> mark
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> mark
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