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Susy Webb <[log in to unmask]>
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Footprint.... Footprint..... FOOTPRINT!!!!!

LOL.... (I have issues too, I fear!)
Susy



---- Tom Hausherr <[log in to unmask]> wrote: 
> Cherie, 
> 
> Now we're exposing terms & definitions issues. I noticed you used the term
> "Footprint" when describing your PCB library parts, but IPC never uses that
> term. The IPC-7351 is the "Land Pattern" standard, not the Footprint
> Standard. However, everywhere I go EE engineers and PCB designers refer to
> there library parts as Footprints. 
> 
> Should IPC change the name of the standard to - IPC-7351C Footprint
> Standard? 
> 
> Does anyone on this forum refer to their PCB library parts in an everyday
> conversation with co-workers as "Land Patterns"? Or does everyone use the
> term Footprints? 
> 
> Example 1: if you created a calculator for library part creation, would you
> call it "The Footprint Calculator"? 
> 
> Example 2: do component manufacturer's use "Recommended Footprint"? or Land
> Pattern? or both?
> 
> Example 3: does any CAE/CAD Vendor refer to PCB library parts as Land
> Patterns in their software? 
> 
> I've got issues today... Where's Jack Olson on this? 
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:43 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [DC] IPC APEX Designer's Day
> 
> Yes, this part is interesting.  I'm a big proponent for working in  metric
> for the same reasons that others have expressed here.  
>  
> As Andy pointed out, many Americans have difficulty learning a new language.
> And for us, that's what it is.  I've found  that being able to think in both
> systems is one of the first  steps.
>  
> As I've been creating and maintaining an Altium component  database for a
> company, the issue of metric vs inch is discussed from  time to time.  A
> good compromise has been to keep the footprint names in  agreement with the
> IPC Metric base: "RESC2012X40N"; and put the "generic"  inch based reference
> at the end of the description line: "Res 1.78K 1/8W 1%  0805".  It makes for
> easy identification and gets everyone used to both  names for the part.
>  
> Cherie
>  
>  
> In a message dated 3/19/2012 3:21:03 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> 
> Irina  & All, 
> 
> What do you call your chip resistors and  capacitors?
> 
> EIA Inch Based - 1206, 0805, 0603, 0402 or IPC  Metric Based - 3216, 2012,
> 1608, 1005
> 
> This is where it gets  interesting.... 
> 
> Tom
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From:  DesignerCouncil [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of  Irina
> Leushina
> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 2:46 PM
> To:  [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [DC] IPC APEX Designer's  Day
> 
> Yeah, there is sort of busy game out here...
> I'm playing mils  with fab houses, mm with assembly/pnp vendors, making lib
> patterns depends  how the component represents from manufacturer...
> 
> Personally and  professionally I would prefer the universal measurement
> everywhere on the  field.
> 
> Regards,
> Irina Leushina
> STS-USA
> Milpitas,  CA
> 
> 
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