That's not exactly correct. Simply put, in the US, anything you write
down in your words is your property, whether you seek or declare a
copyright or not you cannot copyright a fact, but you can copyright
your unique expression of a fact, which is why the New York Times
could sue someone for cutting and pasting its reportage of, say, a
plane crash.
Many trade associations ask those who contribute to their conference
proceedings to sign a waiver permitting the trade association to
publish the paper and (possibly) charge a fee to those who want to
access it. Typically, but not in all cases, the trade association does
not seek to take ownership of the actual content; instead, the waiver
is basically an assignment of certain rights held by the originating
person (or their company).
I would suggest two things. One, post the original pdf as it was
supplied to IPC (thus it would be the author's expression of the
facts). Given the nature of the use here, however, I would guess IPC
doesn't particularly care.
Second, simply ask for an OK to use the copyrighted material. (Or
summarize it in your own words and point to where it resides
elsewhere.)
Best,
Mike
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-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge Hernefjord
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 4:00 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
I was apparently blueeyed. Checked further and found this: if you
present officially a graph or a picture or a formula from someone's
paper, you violate. Not only that...if you have found in a report the
answer to your problem and present that in a mail to others by saying
'guys, if you make x and then do y and follow up by mixing z, you may
violate because it looks like you have copied a phrase. And if you
change the phrase to avoid the copy law, you can still be accused..etc
So, all kind of worthful stuff that I have saved during many years is
in pricipal worthless, can as well let it all go into a container and
burn it.
Wished the chinese were as honest and law-abiding as we are.
The conclusion is that I can continue chatting about weather and
common stuff , but avoid discussing too much technical details. My
source told me that there is a problem going on day and night on
Internet: report fishing!
That's it. Closed.
Inge
On 5 January 2012 20:25, Guy Ramsey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Brian is right. It is what got Earl Moon into trouble with the IPC.
> I could see his point, the data and work was provided to the IPC in
> the interest of promoting knowledge in the industry.
> But, then again, why should any individual be able to publish that
> information for personal profit.
> Here, we are not trying to profit but the law still applies.
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
>
> Just because others violate the copyright does not give you leave to
> do the same. If others have the licence to publish on the 'Net, that
> does not give you the licence.
>
> In this case, I don't know whether the IPC own the copyright, have
> licence to use it in certain ways or whether it belongs to Chris Hunt
> or, more likely, the NPL.
>
> A link to a site does not violate copyright any more than I can say
> that you can buy a book at Amazon. I own the copyright to my book on
> Cleaning etc. and you can purchase a licence to download it from the
> 'Net, but I would be very peeved if extracts from it appeared on your
> website, whether you purchased a licence or not.
>
> Brian
>
> On 05/01/2012 19:31, Steve Gregory wrote:
> > Hmmmm. If you type: "Moisture Measurements in PCBs and Impact of
> > Design
> on Desorption Behaviour" into Google you get the same document at this link:
> >
> > http://www.ipcoutlook.org/pdf/moisture_measurement_in_pcbs_ipc.pdf
> >
> > Not intending to violate any copyrights, but what difference is it
> > if I
> post a link or post the document?
> >
> > Also at the top of the document it states: "As originally published
> > in
> the IPC Printed Circuit Expo, APEX& Designer Summit Proceedings".
> >
> > If it's out on the 'Net and freely accessible by the public, how am
> > I
> violating a copyright?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:49 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
> >
> > I'm not sure whether there may not be a copyright issue here, even
> > if the IPC printed it in its proceedings. I feel this should be clarified.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On 05/01/2012 17:27, Steve Gregory wrote:
> >> Hi Inge!
> >>
> >> Got your report and have it posted. It's here:
> >>
> >> http://stevezeva.homestead.com/moisture_txt.pdf
> >>
> >> Also, remember my purple solder from just a bit ago? Got a really
> >> good
> report (XRF, SEM/EDS, cross-section, micro-photographs, the whole nine
> yards) back from one of our own Technetters that I will post later.
> >>
> >> Stay tuned...
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge
> >> Sent: 03 January, 2012 16:19 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
> >>
> >> Here is the first report, quite new facts for many, I guess, whilst
> routine for old CAD foxes.
> >> Key: be aware of humidity on inside of a PCB. Don't think this is
> >> a
> simple matter, far from.
> >> You can even cause damage to a PCB when you think ' let's increase the
> >> temperature ' , 'let's double the time' , or other home made
> countermeasures.
> >>
> >> I send it to Steve for best way of distribution. If there is
> >> another
> and better, give advice.
> >>
> >> Ingte
> >>
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