I vote you keep it up....just stay away from posting documents.
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 4:52 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
Understood. I sure don't want to get into trouble because of anything
that I post...
But if anyone knows anything about me, my intentions have never been to
infringe on anybody's copyright or to personally profit from others
information. My intentions have only been to be a active member of this
list and contribute when I've been able to do so. Maybe in my mind,
somehow repaying (in my own small way) for all the help I have received
over the years from everybody.
My little web page was started back when all we had was text on this
forum, when we needed a place to post images. As it has been said a
thousand times before; "a picture is worth a thousand words..." I
thought by starting up a place that we could use to post things to
illustrate what we were trying to say where words wouldn't be enough,
would be a good thing. I pay for my web page, and have never even given
it a second thought because I thought it was making a positive
contribution to the TechNet (I even got a plaque from the IPC after I
started my webpage), but now I don't know anymore.
I can't afford a lawyer to screen and advise me on everything that I
post, so maybe it's time for me to shut it all down and save myself a
few bucks...oh well.
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Ramsey
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 2:25 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
Brian is right. It is what got Earl Moon into trouble with the IPC.
I could see his point, the data and work was provided to the IPC in the
interest of promoting knowledge in the industry.
But, then again, why should any individual be able to publish that
information for personal profit.
Here, we are not trying to profit but the law still applies.
Guy
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:05 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
Just because others violate the copyright does not give you leave to do
the same. If others have the licence to publish on the 'Net, that does
not give you the licence.
In this case, I don't know whether the IPC own the copyright, have
licence to use it in certain ways or whether it belongs to Chris Hunt
or, more likely, the NPL.
A link to a site does not violate copyright any more than I can say that
you can buy a book at Amazon. I own the copyright to my book on Cleaning
etc. and you can purchase a licence to download it from the 'Net, but I
would be very peeved if extracts from it appeared on your website,
whether you purchased a licence or not.
Brian
On 05/01/2012 19:31, Steve Gregory wrote:
> Hmmmm. If you type: "Moisture Measurements in PCBs and Impact of
> Design on Desorption Behaviour" into Google you get the same document
> at this
> link:
>
> http://www.ipcoutlook.org/pdf/moisture_measurement_in_pcbs_ipc.pdf
>
> Not intending to violate any copyrights, but what difference is it if
> I post a link or post the document?
>
> Also at the top of the document it states: "As originally published in
> the IPC Printed Circuit Expo, APEX& Designer Summit Proceedings".
>
> If it's out on the 'Net and freely accessible by the public, how am I
> violating a copyright?
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:49 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
>
> I'm not sure whether there may not be a copyright issue here, even if
> the IPC printed it in its proceedings. I feel this should be
clarified.
>
> Brian
>
> On 05/01/2012 17:27, Steve Gregory wrote:
>> Hi Inge!
>>
>> Got your report and have it posted. It's here:
>>
>> http://stevezeva.homestead.com/moisture_txt.pdf
>>
>> Also, remember my purple solder from just a bit ago? Got a really
>> good report (XRF, SEM/EDS, cross-section, micro-photographs, the
>> whole nine
>> yards) back from one of our own Technetters that I will post later.
>>
>> Stay tuned...
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge
>> Sent: 03 January, 2012 16:19 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
>>
>> Here is the first report, quite new facts for many, I guess, whilst
>> routine for old CAD foxes.
>> Key: be aware of humidity on inside of a PCB. Don't think this is a
>> simple matter, far from.
>> You can even cause damage to a PCB when you think ' let's increase
the
>> temperature ' , 'let's double the time' , or other home made
>> countermeasures.
>>
>> I send it to Steve for best way of distribution. If there is another
>> and better, give advice.
>>
>> Ingte
>>
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