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Inge,

It is sad that you cannot share your wealth of information.  I, for one, have always read your posts and learned something.  


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:20 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design

It seems, as I feared, that we can give up the idea of share knowhow, because every and each paper is owned by someone. Of all interesting reports I planned for, very few are 100% my own, because I may have written them at the office of the company I worked for. And I was classified for a number of years...

at least a try

/Inge


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From: "Brian Ellis" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 7:04 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design


> Just because others violate the copyright does not give you leave to do 
> the same. If others have the licence to publish on the 'Net, that does not 
> give you the licence.
>
> In this case, I don't know whether the IPC own the copyright, have licence 
> to use it in certain ways or whether it belongs to Chris Hunt or, more 
> likely, the NPL.
>
> A link to a site does not violate copyright any more than I can say that 
> you can buy a book at Amazon. I own the copyright to my book on Cleaning 
> etc. and you can purchase a licence to download it from the 'Net, but I 
> would be very peeved if extracts from it appeared on your website, whether 
> you purchased a licence or not.
>
> Brian
>
> On 05/01/2012 19:31, Steve Gregory wrote:
>> Hmmmm. If you type:  "Moisture Measurements in PCBs and Impact of Design 
>> on Desorption Behaviour" into Google you get the same document at this 
>> link:
>>
>> http://www.ipcoutlook.org/pdf/moisture_measurement_in_pcbs_ipc.pdf
>>
>> Not intending to violate any copyrights, but what difference is it if I 
>> post a link or post the document?
>>
>> Also at the top of the document it states: "As originally published in 
>> the IPC Printed Circuit Expo, APEX&  Designer Summit Proceedings".
>>
>> If it's out on the 'Net and freely accessible by the public, how am I 
>> violating a copyright?
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
>> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:49 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
>>
>> I'm not sure whether there may not be a copyright issue here, even if
>> the IPC printed it in its proceedings. I feel this should be clarified.
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On 05/01/2012 17:27, Steve Gregory wrote:
>>> Hi Inge!
>>>
>>> Got your report and have it posted. It's here:
>>>
>>> http://stevezeva.homestead.com/moisture_txt.pdf
>>>
>>> Also, remember my purple solder from just a bit ago? Got a really good 
>>> report (XRF, SEM/EDS, cross-section, micro-photographs, the whole nine 
>>> yards) back from one of our own Technetters that I will post later.
>>>
>>> Stay tuned...
>>>
>>> Steve
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge
>>> Sent: 03 January, 2012 16:19 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
>>>
>>> Here is the first report, quite new facts for many, I guess, whilst 
>>> routine for old CAD foxes.
>>> Key: be aware of humidity on inside of a PCB. Don't think this is  a 
>>> simple matter, far from.
>>> You can even cause damage to a PCB when you think   ' let's increase the
>>> temperature ' , 'let's double the time'  , or other home made 
>>> countermeasures.
>>>
>>> I send it to Steve for best way of distribution. If there is another and 
>>> better, give advice.
>>>
>>> Ingte
>>>
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