I was apparently blueeyed. Checked further and found this: if you present
officially a graph or a picture or a formula from someone's paper, you
violate. Not only that...if you have found in a report the answer to your
problem and present that in a mail to others by saying 'guys, if you make x
and then do y and follow up by mixing z, you may violate because it looks
like you have copied a phrase. And if you change the phrase to avoid the
copy law, you can still be accused..etc
So, all kind of worthful stuff that I have saved during many years is in
pricipal worthless, can as well let it all go into a container and burn it.
Wished the chinese were as honest and law-abiding as we are.
The conclusion is that I can continue chatting about weather and common
stuff , but avoid discussing too much technical details. My source told me
that there is a problem going on day and night on Internet: report fishing!
That's it. Closed.
Inge
On 5 January 2012 20:25, Guy Ramsey <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Brian is right. It is what got Earl Moon into trouble with the IPC.
> I could see his point, the data and work was provided to the IPC in the
> interest of promoting knowledge in the industry.
> But, then again, why should any individual be able to publish that
> information for personal profit.
> Here, we are not trying to profit but the law still applies.
> Guy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
> Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 1:05 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
>
> Just because others violate the copyright does not give you leave to do
> the same. If others have the licence to publish on the 'Net, that does
> not give you the licence.
>
> In this case, I don't know whether the IPC own the copyright, have
> licence to use it in certain ways or whether it belongs to Chris Hunt
> or, more likely, the NPL.
>
> A link to a site does not violate copyright any more than I can say that
> you can buy a book at Amazon. I own the copyright to my book on Cleaning
> etc. and you can purchase a licence to download it from the 'Net, but I
> would be very peeved if extracts from it appeared on your website,
> whether you purchased a licence or not.
>
> Brian
>
> On 05/01/2012 19:31, Steve Gregory wrote:
> > Hmmmm. If you type: "Moisture Measurements in PCBs and Impact of Design
> on Desorption Behaviour" into Google you get the same document at this link:
> >
> > http://www.ipcoutlook.org/pdf/moisture_measurement_in_pcbs_ipc.pdf
> >
> > Not intending to violate any copyrights, but what difference is it if I
> post a link or post the document?
> >
> > Also at the top of the document it states: "As originally published in
> the IPC Printed Circuit Expo, APEX& Designer Summit Proceedings".
> >
> > If it's out on the 'Net and freely accessible by the public, how am I
> violating a copyright?
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
> > Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2012 10:49 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
> >
> > I'm not sure whether there may not be a copyright issue here, even if
> > the IPC printed it in its proceedings. I feel this should be clarified.
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On 05/01/2012 17:27, Steve Gregory wrote:
> >> Hi Inge!
> >>
> >> Got your report and have it posted. It's here:
> >>
> >> http://stevezeva.homestead.com/moisture_txt.pdf
> >>
> >> Also, remember my purple solder from just a bit ago? Got a really good
> report (XRF, SEM/EDS, cross-section, micro-photographs, the whole nine
> yards) back from one of our own Technetters that I will post later.
> >>
> >> Stay tuned...
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge
> >> Sent: 03 January, 2012 16:19 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: [TN] ist report: PCB vs baking vs design
> >>
> >> Here is the first report, quite new facts for many, I guess, whilst
> routine for old CAD foxes.
> >> Key: be aware of humidity on inside of a PCB. Don't think this is a
> simple matter, far from.
> >> You can even cause damage to a PCB when you think ' let's increase the
> >> temperature ' , 'let's double the time' , or other home made
> countermeasures.
> >>
> >> I send it to Steve for best way of distribution. If there is another
> and better, give advice.
> >>
> >> Ingte
> >>
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