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Hmmm,

 I wonder if an IPhone would pass an ionic contamination test?

 I would also suggest that having 10 years of experience in an electronic assembly shop is probably worth even less than the PhD or MBA!

Bob K.

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:09 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] The iPhone Economy (from NY Times)--BACKGROUND FACTS & HISTORY FIRST

In fact, in China many companies are currently washing circuit boards using heavily polluted river water pumped through a minimal filter system. I know because I spoke with their civil engineers about the problems they have with water quality issues, and it was much cheaper and easier for these companies to put in their own systems. They just pay off the local officials, but they actually return the water to the river cleaner than what is coming into the building from the municipal water plant. It doesn't take much, the municipal water in major Chinese cities is so bad no one would think of drinking it without boiling it first. In many areas they get drinking water from a well supply, but are not allowed to use that for industrial purposes.

I have worked alongside many MBAs, some were really good, some were really bad. I learned a long time ago that the addition of an MBA degree or having a PhD does not mean anything at all; some do well in getting into the trenches and solving problems, but I have also met many whose letters behind their names should have been FI.

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Kondner
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] The iPhone Economy (from NY Times)--BACKGROUND FACTS & HISTORY FIRST

When it comes to selecting someone to help analyze a company's processes I will take the "Fresh Out of School" MBA over an experienced electronic technician any day.

 When I asked about rinsing in tap water followed with a water blow off so many folks said "Must Use DI" without even considering an analysis. A fresh out of school MBA might think about it longer. Hmmm I think I will pay them more money.

 What would they do in China? Put in a DI system of blow off tap water with an air gun? Hmmm, sounds like China knows the value of a dollar!

Bob K.


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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pete
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:18 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] The iPhone Economy (from NY Times)--BACKGROUND FACTS & HISTORY FIRST

There seems to be two types of MBAs.  Those that start with an undergrad degree and get their MBA as they, and those that get their MBAs before entering the real world.  The problem came in the 80's, when every company wanted to hire those freshly minted MBAs right out of school.  About the same time that share price became the only barometer.   So began a cycle of formulatic answers because the textbook said so.  Profits temporarily down?  Reduce the workforce.  Wnat more profits?  Send it to China.  The MBAs with real experience knew better, wouldn't go for the instant gratification ideas, so they aren't the ones who got promoted to positions to make significant business decisions.  Part of the reason American companies seem to be stuck in a ditch is because we're now starting to see the long term effects of short term efforts to prop up that share price.

I could show rather convincingly how moving some R&D workforce to China because they bill 1/3 is costing us twice as much, and losing us market share.  But I don't have the right letters after my name, I don't get to go to those meetings.

Pete

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