Hi, Joyce. You are absolutely correct.
Military aircraft, ground-based vehicles, missiles of all types, and even satellite electronics are updated with new guidance and control electronics very frequently. I myself have worked on many upgrade programs on torpedoes, older F-16 and F-18 aircraft, helicopters, the Advanced Lightweight Cruise Missiles such as CRMA and Harpoon, and many other programs. For several years I was contracted out to the government by a major military supplier and I worked on retrofits of ALL of the cockpit instrumentation and flight controls of certain fighters and bombers. We traveled to areas close to the hangars and lived temporarily in apartments, and by day we routinely put jets and other aircraft up on the equivalent of a very large dynamometer, with the wings stripped off of the fuselage. We then pulled out all of the old controls and instrumentation and replaced them with newer, and smaller and more advanced altimeters, ring laser gyros, wind speed indicators, radar units, flight control computer networks, and all the rest of the instrumentation required. Then the planes were fired and tested inside the hangars. The noise was incredible (large rolling steel doors vibrated off the tracks at one location!). These retrofits provided significant increases in maneuverability, reliability, reaction speeds, and greatly increased the life and fighting capability of the aircraft, and extended their useful life by 15 years or more, at a fraction of the cost of a new aircraft.
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From: Joyce Koo [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 1:28 PM
To: 'TechNet E-Mail Forum'; Stadem, Richard D.
Subject: RE: [TN] What is the future of electronics assembly?
No worry, you still need to support aircraft for 15 years if not more. There are cost cutting going on with EU and NA all in trouble water. The aircraft or any larger stuff extended to its life using non-destructive testing, re-certification, etc. Within two extreme, the cutting edge and bleeding edge stuff for new, the old will still need to be serviced, updated, remodeled, etc. You really can not just scrap all the existing stuff and starting a clean slate.
Joyce Koo
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 2:19 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] What is the future of electronics assembly?
I believe the electronics industry and its processes will actually evolve very radically in step with the advancements made in nanotechnology. It will change from an electromechanical process to one that is primarily based on chemical processes, with little or no assembly or soldering involved. While not exactly Joe Fjelstad's Occam process, I could certainly envision something similar from a chemical buildup standpoint.
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Larry Dzaugis
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] What is the future of electronics assembly?
The only certainty is that 10 years from now the products will be
smaller, cheaper, faster time to market. Moore's law will be near its
end (predicted every 5 years for the last 20), its held up well for
being an empirically determined model. I/O will increase and with
higher integration levels of components, more embedded software, test
will continue to require heroic efforts to launch new products.
Legacy products and processes will still be important. I lived in a
town with 2 whip factories, its down to one very successful buggy whip
factory now.
Where will bleeding edge products be developed? That is changing as
production moves and talent ages. Young turks in growing locations
coming up with new ideas and gaining the experience to execute them
and old farts in flat growth areas slowing leaving the business.
None of us predicted that 30 years ago China would be the workshop to
the world today.That will change little in 10 years, it could change
radically in 20 years.
I do not see a game changing assembly technology like the
introduction of vision in SMT equipment 20 years ago.I see faster
processors allowing higher precision and faster speeds and more areas
where vision can be cost effectively applied, x-ray price /performance
continues to improve.
On 1/17/12, Matthias Mansfeld <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> On 17 Jan 2012 at 9:37, David D. Hillman wrote:
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>> And to reinforce Mike's sage words, I was told "............. the wave
>> soldering process is a dinosaur and will be extinct in a few
>> years"............... this wisdom was given to me in 1988!
>
> "... the printed circuit board will be extinct in a few years"...
> (even some more years ago....) :-)))
>
> Best regardsMatthias Mansfeld
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