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Yes, and if you use gold plated speaker wires and connectors the sound improves even more!  {;-)

Ahne.

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge
Sent: 18 January, 2012 15:15 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] What is the future of electronics assembly?

I saved some tubes for fun, somewhere in the attic..Sylvania 6011, 6J6,
ECC803 and some more.  In fact, I can't see why tube HiFis should be better than semi dittos. Todays semiconductors have far better S/N,  enormous bandwitdth, no hum, not measurable overtones, no hiss,  absolutely ideal sinus on the scope, you don't miss any nuances from the music studio. Isn't it a placebo effect?

Inge


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From: "Stadem, Richard D." <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 7:42 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] What is the future of electronics assembly?


> Yes, I remember while working at Stark Electronics in the 70's that when 
> the transistors and ICs were starting to become more popular, all of a 
> sudden the old electron tubes became smaller, better quality and much 
> cheaper. Part numbers like Sylvania 6AU6, 6AY11, 12DF7, etc. start coming 
> back to me, and I remember which ones were power supply, filter, and 
> amplifier tubes.
> And my old tube amps always did have a much better tonal quality to them 
> than any transistor amp ever did.
> Even up until just recently, the very best hi-end audio amplifiers such as 
> Bel Canto still used tubes, albeit cutting edge, not yesterday's 
> technology.
> I had a chance to listen to Maria Callas singing through a Bel Canto 
> system recently, while there on business. My wife and her sister were with 
> me. They both started crying, the music was so beautiful. Both of them 
> were trained singers, and they know a good sound system when they hear it.
>
> So, yes, there will always be a market for today's electronics, just as 
> there is still a market for yesterday's, because some things simply cannot 
> be easily improved.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ahne Oosterhof
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:54 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] What is the future of electronics assembly?
>
> Yes, at some point in time the present day  technologies will be replaced 
> by new ones. But the new ones have not really shown themselves clearly 
> yet.
> When looking at past changes I have noticed that old technologies kind of 
> go through a revival stage when the new ones show up. As an example, CRTs 
> improved noticeably when flat panel displays started to pop up, but are 
> now essentially gone. Vacuum tubes became smaller, as in nuvistors, but 
> transistors won.
> Can we expect some noticeable improvements in today's assembly and 
> packaging processes before they will also be delegated to the dustbins of 
> time?
>
>
> Ahne.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pete
> Sent: 18 January, 2012 7:11 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] What is the future of electronics assembly?
>
> Interesting discussion indeed.  I see a lot of predictions about the need 
> for legacy work, which will keep people employed.  But it's the leading 
> edge, new technologies that will make up the bulk of the bulk of the work, 
> and profit.
>
> As a PCB designer, I have to approach this from a different perspective. 
> I know how to design for the current technology, but once it's designed, 
> there's not much legacy work I can count on.  How do I design for Occam? 
> Or the next idea?  Nano technology and graphene could completely change 
> the component/solder/copper/laminate structure.  PCB design could become 
> more like IC design.  I don't want to be the guy justy hanging on to old 
> tech, I want to be learning and implementing the latest and greatest.
>
> If I'm not one of the ones ready to understand and design the new 
> technology, I'll be one of the youngest Wal-Mart greeters in the store.
>
> Pete
>
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