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Hi,

 Consider that "Rework Tools" back in the days of tube component were solder wick and a soldering iron. Hmmm, we got real far?

 Now look at an up to date PnP compared to a "Hand Crafted Wired Chassis" assembly line of people with soldering irons. Hmmm, a lot less people. 

Bob



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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 1:42 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] What is the future of electronics assembly?

Yes, I remember while working at Stark Electronics in the 70's that when the transistors and ICs were starting to become more popular, all of a sudden the old electron tubes became smaller, better quality and much cheaper. Part numbers like Sylvania 6AU6, 6AY11, 12DF7, etc. start coming back to me, and I remember which ones were power supply, filter, and amplifier tubes.
And my old tube amps always did have a much better tonal quality to them than any transistor amp ever did.
Even up until just recently, the very best hi-end audio amplifiers such as Bel Canto still used tubes, albeit cutting edge, not yesterday's technology. 
I had a chance to listen to Maria Callas singing through a Bel Canto system recently, while there on business. My wife and her sister were with me. They both started crying, the music was so beautiful. Both of them were trained singers, and they know a good sound system when they hear it. 

So, yes, there will always be a market for today's electronics, just as there is still a market for yesterday's, because some things simply cannot be easily improved.


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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ahne Oosterhof
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:54 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] What is the future of electronics assembly?

Yes, at some point in time the present day  technologies will be replaced by new ones. But the new ones have not really shown themselves clearly yet. 
When looking at past changes I have noticed that old technologies kind of go through a revival stage when the new ones show up. As an example, CRTs improved noticeably when flat panel displays started to pop up, but are now essentially gone. Vacuum tubes became smaller, as in nuvistors, but transistors won.
Can we expect some noticeable improvements in today's assembly and packaging processes before they will also be delegated to the dustbins of time?


Ahne.


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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Pete
Sent: 18 January, 2012 7:11 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] What is the future of electronics assembly?

Interesting discussion indeed.  I see a lot of predictions about the need for legacy work, which will keep people employed.  But it's the leading edge, new technologies that will make up the bulk of the bulk of the work, and profit.

As a PCB designer, I have to approach this from a different perspective.  I know how to design for the current technology, but once it's designed, there's not much legacy work I can count on.  How do I design for Occam?  Or the next idea?  Nano technology and graphene could completely change the component/solder/copper/laminate structure.  PCB design could become more like IC design.  I don't want to be the guy justy hanging on to old tech, I want to be learning and implementing the latest and greatest.  

If I'm not one of the ones ready to understand and design the new technology, I'll be one of the youngest Wal-Mart greeters in the store.

Pete

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