Reuven,
We call them "legacy products" already... And we build lots of them - still!

  Dale 

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Reuven Rokah
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 11:03 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] What is the future of electronics assembly?

Nano Robots will fix everything.... almost.
The existing technology will be named vintage technology...
Reuven

On Wed, Jan 18, 2012 at 6:43 PM, Robert Kondner
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> HI,
>
>  If you wanted to repair one of today's cell phones and you had solder 
> wick and a 40W iron would it be possible? Not really IM/HO.
>
>  I wonder if that same model applies to the use of rework systems in 
> the future?  As the complexity factor goes up and the size goes down 
> the assembly technology sky rockets. It is like a piece of glass, once 
> it breaks it is into the trash.  Not that glass is not recyclable, it 
> just is not economically feasible.
>
>  If it's a major expense to get a PnP machine running today don't look 
> forward to tomorrow!
>
>  Then there are systems. Folks might have noticed that today's FPGAs 
> have serial IO streams at over 5 Gb/s. A PCI bus is only 1 or 2 Gb/s. 
> And the FPGA has several of these links and each link is two wires?
>
>  So I see many more major high level components being made by a very 
> small number of "Assemblers" and a lot less small assembly outfits.
>
>  Many of today's assembly houses will be empty or will look like 
> "Appliance Repair Shops" where a little through hole and SMT work for 
> specialized items is provided.
>
> Bob K.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Drew meyer
> Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 10:52 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] What is the future of electronics assembly?
>
> Dave,
>
> All the responses I read it brought to mind my time at Hawkeye 
> Institute of Technology earning an electronics technician associate 
> degree.  Keep in mind this is 1978-1980.
>
> We are learning on training computer systems both programing and 
> debugging.  One day an older model training computer is set up at the 
> front of the classroom.  Immediately everyone wants to know why.  We 
> are informed that we will be learning the function of core memory 
> systems.  The first response of all the students is that's antique 
> (dinosaur) and no one uses it.  The instructors respond that when we 
> graduate at least 25% or more of us will be working with it.
>
> Graduation comes and I go to work at a company in Iowa that sells 
> industrial process control equipment.  Their computers run with core 
> memory 56k of R/W core and a 2k wire ROM.  Why core/wire based 
> systems?  They are non-volatile memory.  A power failure does not result in data loss.
>
>  I repair every thing on the core memories but the core stacks.  The 
> wire ROM, I must repair everything including re-wiring bad wires as 
> the manufacturer of it will no longer service it.  For the next eight 
> years the systems are fully serviced and I repair all their cards.  
> Cards that include DTL parts.
>
> I believe that older technology dies a little faster today but you can 
> never count a technology that works well and is still available out of 
> the mix that will be present in the future.
>
> To this day I can remember core memory function.  Sense/Inhibit lines, 
> X and Y lines, Data Register to capture the data for output and to 
> re-write the location.  The read cycle was a destructive cycle (the 
> location was erased during a read an had to be automatically 
> re-written to restore the data).
>
> Drew Meyer
>
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