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I-phone assembly is no-clean, so it doesn't matter whether it passes an
ionic contamination test.  With smart phone, a drop test is likely the most
important reliability analysis.


Karen Tellefsen - Electrical Testing
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Hmmm,

 I wonder if an IPhone would pass an ionic contamination test?

 I would also suggest that having 10 years of experience in an electronic
assembly shop is probably worth even less than the PhD or MBA!

Bob K.

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 11:09 AM
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In fact, in China many companies are currently washing circuit boards using
heavily polluted river water pumped through a minimal filter system. I know
because I spoke with their civil engineers about the problems they have
with water quality issues, and it was much cheaper and easier for these
companies to put in their own systems. They just pay off the local
officials, but they actually return the water to the river cleaner than
what is coming into the building from the municipal water plant. It doesn't
take much, the municipal water in major Chinese cities is so bad no one
would think of drinking it without boiling it first. In many areas they get
drinking water from a well supply, but are not allowed to use that for
industrial purposes.

I have worked alongside many MBAs, some were really good, some were really
bad. I learned a long time ago that the addition of an MBA degree or having
a PhD does not mean anything at all; some do well in getting into the
trenches and solving problems, but I have also met many whose letters
behind their names should have been FI.

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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:11 AM
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When it comes to selecting someone to help analyze a company's processes I
will take the "Fresh Out of School" MBA over an experienced electronic
technician any day.

 When I asked about rinsing in tap water followed with a water blow off so
many folks said "Must Use DI" without even considering an analysis. A fresh
out of school MBA might think about it longer. Hmmm I think I will pay them
more money.

 What would they do in China? Put in a DI system of blow off tap water with
an air gun? Hmmm, sounds like China knows the value of a dollar!

Bob K.


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Sent: Tuesday, January 24, 2012 9:18 AM
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There seems to be two types of MBAs.  Those that start with an undergrad
degree and get their MBA as they, and those that get their MBAs before
entering the real world.  The problem came in the 80's, when every company
wanted to hire those freshly minted MBAs right out of school.  About the
same time that share price became the only barometer.   So began a cycle of
formulatic answers because the textbook said so.  Profits temporarily down?
Reduce the workforce.  Wnat more profits?  Send it to China.  The MBAs with
real experience knew better, wouldn't go for the instant gratification
ideas, so they aren't the ones who got promoted to positions to make
significant business decisions.  Part of the reason American companies seem
to be stuck in a ditch is because we're now starting to see the long term
effects of short term efforts to prop up that share price.

I could show rather convincingly how moving some R&D workforce to China
because they bill 1/3 is costing us twice as much, and losing us market
share.  But I don't have the right letters after my name, I don't get to go
to those meetings.

Pete

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