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Hello distinguished members of the Forum,

I guess many of us remember Earl Moon and his DfM/CC book. Not so long ago I inquired of his whereabouts and it seems he passed away. In this case, I guess the aforementioned book is not bound to copyrights anymore, so it could be freely distributed. I personally believe that circulating his comprehensive handbook could benefit to all, including the younger members of this group and would keep Earl's memory alive. He put his heart into it and we owe him one!

So, I am one of the owners of the CD originally put together by the author and, if all legalities are clear, I could upload it on IPC's Technet website for free download. Or I could share it with Steve G., so that he puts it on his page.

But once again, I don't know how the copyrights work and do not want to run into trouble, so anybody could help from this point of view?

Regards,

Ioan Tempea, ing.
Ingénieur Principal de Fabrication / Senior Manufacturing Engineer
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De : Pete [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Envoyé : December-23-11 9:56 AM
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Objet : Re: [TN] PCB Design Rant

Brian, that list needs to be presented to every Engineering VP!  I wish I had that a few weeks ago, when we were putting to gether our "how to fix this mess we're in" presentation.   Yup, a few years in to our brilliant new plan to cut costs in Engineering, we were tasked coming up with a plan that could easily have started with "I told you so"

It's not about about new, fresh out of college, any of that.  It's about areas of expertise and resource utilization.  Brian's list very completely described all of the things NOT taught in engineering school.  And, it's a list of things that a properly utilized EE just doesn't have time to deal with.  That's why there (used to be) PCB designers.

Our case study:  We used to have a group of PCB designers, working very closely with in house engineers and captive PC assembly.  We bought a smaller company in Europe, they had no PC designers, EEs did the free CAD thing, but they didn't manufacture much.  Upper management then decided PCBs are electrical, EEs can design them.  China is cheaper, open an R&D group there.  I am now the only PCB designer in a company of 4K employees.    We closed our captive facility and outsource assembly.  

Our Europe EEs are excellent EEs, but don't understand PCBs, so I spend way too much time with vendors trying to get their expensive and unreliable boards built.  Our China group has very little technical experience, and a culture that discourages independant thought.  So while they bill 1/3 what the US bills, designs take 4x as long, I spend 1-1/2x as much time handholding as it would take me to do the design.  And still, that time with the vendors building poorly designed boards.  Our EEs in the US, having worked with PC designers, have been able to get their design work put on my overloaded schedule.  

After 3 years, that same management asked us to figure out why our time to market and product cost has grown exponentially.  The first suggestion they shot down was to hire another PCB designer.

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