I think both have their place. There are discussion groups on LinkedIn,
but I don't really like the format. I think of LinkedIn as a directory,
where I can keep track of the folks I know.
Having been on TechNet for 14 years (Yikes!!!) I'd say I'm not going
anywhere soon...
regards,
- Graham
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Inge Hernefjord
Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2011 9:00 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN
Varying opinions, as expected. Myself, I think both 'friendship engines'
are
thrilling and may cause many good and practical connections. I will use
both. BUT...I'm suspicious at the same time. Will be careful with the
number
of contacts. Why did I make this announcement? It's the scenario that
bother
me, not as person, but as entrepeneur. Imagine that one of these guys
with
several hundred or thousands of 'web friends' be connected with a supect
person, then this same guy may have access to a lot of these many
hundreds.
And he can contact further persons by just select further people from
the
open list and send a ' nn wants you to be a friend. do you admit? ' .
And some dozens here, some hundreds there and some thousands moreover
will
after a year be tens of thousands. If he is a hacker, he can certainly
use
false names and alias and create a puter program that sends
automatically
short frases to the mass and also tell the program to sniff for words
like
'defense industry' , 'patent', 'secret', 'business travel in country X,
and
whatever words that can be tracks for further sneeking. And all these
naive
and handsome 'friends' supect nothing and give signals about a lot
without
knowing. Example: the new friend asks for help with his old IBM desk
machine and he tells that he has a harddisk problem and is afraid of
loosing years of photos, and that the machine is so old that noone wants
to
give advice, therefore, if someone knows a IBM guy, perhaps he can get
some
tips what to do. He is lucky, because there is one guy out there who
has a
friend who works at IBM, and (proudly) 'he should know because he works
with
development of a new machine. And the kind member gives the adress to
the
specialist. Not so dramatic example, but it shows in principle how
someone
can 'tunnel' his way to get some worthful grains.
I did not mean to start a debate. The reactions I got are enough. And
many
readers may take the bate and consider what they say in the cyberspace.
There are lots and lots of articles about this matter, but still many
are
ignorant and chitchat, as said Trikeman.
/Inge
On 24 August 2011 19:14, Stadem, Richard D. <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> I agree, Dewey. I have always envisioned you out there, standing by a
> manure spreader.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Whittaker, Dewey
> (EHCOE)
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:15 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN
>
> Oh! I see the light. With the "virtual farm", I could add myself. I've
> always wanted to be known as a man outstanding in his field.
> Dewey
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steven Creswick
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 8:38 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN
>
> Steve,
>
> Absolutely correct! You get out of it what you put in. For
connecting
> with past friends, I can see where FB would be very convenient.
>
> I was alluding to the activities that it offers like a virtual 'farm',
> etc. I would rather be outside working than that..
>
> Like anything else, it can be used 'properly', or 'abused' - subject
to
> one's own interpretation
>
> Best wishes
>
> Steve C
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Steve Gregory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:18 AM
> To: 'TechNet E-Mail Forum'; 'Steven Creswick'
> Subject: RE: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN
>
> Hi Steve,
>
> I agree with you completely about LinkedIn. I am also a FB'er, and
it's
> strictly social, I must say for me it's been pretty cool.
>
> I've been able to hook-up with my Navy shipmates from my old squadrons
> who I flew with over 30 years ago, and even have a reunion in the
> planning stages in Pensacola, Florida next year. Don't think that ever
> would have had happened without Facebook. Well it might have, but not
> without a whole lot of work.
>
> I guess it all depends what you want to get out of it, if you think
it's
> bothersome, then you won't find any use for it. I think being able to
> communicate with old friends across the country and the world at the
> speed of light for free is pretty cool...
>
> Steve
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steven Creswick
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:53 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN
>
> Ben,
>
> In many respects LinkedIn Groups and IPC Tech Forums are quite
similar,
> although they likely service differing disciplines, or areas of
> interest.
>
> I cannot speak for Facebook, because I don't 'do it'. [My wife does
> occasionally, and seems a too bit much 'social' media chit chat for
me.]
>
> Not that TechNet or LinkedIn is totally devoid of misc chit chat, etc,
> but Facebook seems to me to be >95% chit chat.
>
> I became involved in TechNet, when the FlipChip IPC forum was still
> alive. TechNet offered contact with individuals doing similar, or
> obliquely similar processes, using similar materials. That
distinction
> has blurred significantly over the years.
>
> My primary interest [as Inge knows] over the years has always been in
> the hybrid microelectronics realm - simply explained as 'putting
> together that which you stuff on your boards' - at least one layer of
> packaging below yours. Microelectronics present challenges which many
> people are simply not aware of. People like Joyce and Inge, with
> wirebonding experience can relate.
>
> In the olden-days, it was more often called Hybrid Microelectronics
> because it really was a "hybrid" - combining desirable characteristics
> from many different technologies [substrate - thin film, thick film,
> HTCC, LTCC, flex, laminate, glass, etc[; from many different
> metallization technologies [plating, thick film, thin film direct
write,
> polymeric, etc.]; and offering many ranges of packaging technologies
> [optical, hermetic, non-hermetic, chip on board, chip on flex, chip on
> glass, glob top, ... etc.]. Those who best nurtured that
> 'hybridization', typically enjoyed the challenges.
>
> The areas where I can contribute on TechNet are primarily in the wire
> bonding, platings for bonding [which sometimes offer certain
> similarities to platings for solderable surface finishes], and device
> packaging. I have done the hands-on processing & manufacturing work
for
> SMD and Flip Chip assembly for low cost commercial telecommunications
> devices as well as the upper end items that we don't speak about, and
> others that reside within someone's chest, the International Space
> Station's docking motor systems, or even are on the Cassini
spacecraft,
> still in the Saturnian system.
>
> Now then, LinkedIn has specific groups for Wire Bonding, Device
> Assembly, etc. And, the links appear to keep growing. Therefore,
there
> is a wealth of information exchange and growth taking place there,
just
> as there is on TechNet. You just may not see it - nor care about it
> :-)
>
> But, being the 'modern man' and continuing to learn and grow, it is
> mind-widening to continue to open myself to other disciplines and
> knowledge [which TechNet offers]. I continue with the 'hybridization'
> mindset that I've always had - learning about those seemingly
unrelated
> materials, processes, and problems and applying them, as applicable,
to
> my needs and applications - or offering what appears to be appropriate
> comment, on occasion.
>
> Finally, LinkedIn is supposedly viewed more often [certainly than
> TechNet] by the HR types. So, if one is like me, over 50,
> over-experienced, and looking for a job in my own locality, LinkedIn
is
> a reasonable forum to participate in.
>
> By leaving the LinkedIn link on my 'signature' I do not 'brag', I do
not
> twist anyone's arm to 'link-in' etc, however, it is an extension of my
> hand[shake] should anyone wish to link.
>
> I enjoy both TechNet AND LinkedIn because of the learning and
> contributing experience offered by both. There is nothing that says
we
> have to belong to ANY media group, and the last time I checked, most
of
> us were still free to select which one/s we desired to belong to.
>
> So, do your own thing... as others have already stated. I am :-)
>
>
> Steve Creswick
> http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevencreswick
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gumpert, Ben
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:58 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] EXTERNAL: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN
>
> Brian,
>
> You may not be on LinkedIN or Facebook, but you've been on TechNet for
a
> while. The interface may not be as fancy, but it's basically the same
> thing. (Albeit with less social and more technical.)
>
> Ben
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
> Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:20 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN
>
> Inge
>
> I have neither friends nor am a friend of anyone. I have refused to
> participate in any so-called social networks from the word go-get. I
may
>
> be missing something but I'll take that risk. Your 'friendship web'
will
>
> therefore always be missing one person!
>
> Maybe we should have a network for anti-networkers :-D
>
> Brian
>
> On 24/08/2011 09:26, Inge wrote:
> > Hi,
> > well, I suppose that most of you are 'linked' to someone who is
linked
> > to someone who is linked...
> > Interesting. I have friends who have up to 5,000 friends, and the
> > linking and Facebooking avalanche goes on. Now, what will happen
when
> we
> > are linked together, either by means of LinkedIn, Facebook or other
> > accumulation program? This is probably only the start of a gigantic
> > 'friendship web'. Kind of a computer world's parallel to the 60's
> Flower
> > power. One of my sons spend at least 1-5 hs a day chatting with his
> 565
> > friends from all places on this planet. It's a fantastic world that
> > opens wth just a mouse in your hand, but how will we play our roles
in
> > the future and what will be the fruitbringng results? Anyone with a
> > crystal bal?
> >
> > /Inge
> >
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