Interesting.
To me TechNet is an amazing place because of the free and open exchange of
information and the quality of the exchanges, some times way over my head. I
learn something everyday here.
Linked In is much more to do with people. It is very handy for meeting
people, discovering/rediscovering people and so on, There are discussion
groups and they can be issue related as well as problem related as TechNet.
I think possibly we might also have to acknowledge some demographics... For
example: my sons run a hospitality business. They advise that more of the
20-30 somethings use Facebook/Smartphone, Twitter is more for 40-50,
Internet 50+ . Of course not exclusively.
That's dealing with the public, but business to business is just the public
at work, and the same applies. Blogs are similar and just as powerful.
Regards
Mike
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Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 4:38 PM
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Subject: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN
Steve,
Absolutely correct! You get out of it what you put in. For connecting with
past friends, I can see where FB would be very convenient.
I was alluding to the activities that it offers like a virtual 'farm', etc.
I would rather be outside working than that..
Like anything else, it can be used 'properly', or 'abused' - subject to
one's own interpretation
Best wishes
Steve C
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From: Steve Gregory [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:18 AM
To: 'TechNet E-Mail Forum'; 'Steven Creswick'
Subject: RE: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN
Hi Steve,
I agree with you completely about LinkedIn. I am also a FB'er, and it's
strictly social, I must say for me it's been pretty cool.
I've been able to hook-up with my Navy shipmates from my old squadrons who I
flew with over 30 years ago, and even have a reunion in the planning stages
in Pensacola, Florida next year. Don't think that ever would have had
happened without Facebook. Well it might have, but not without a whole lot
of work.
I guess it all depends what you want to get out of it, if you think it's
bothersome, then you won't find any use for it. I think being able to
communicate with old friends across the country and the world at the speed
of light for free is pretty cool...
Steve
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steven Creswick
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:53 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN
Ben,
In many respects LinkedIn Groups and IPC Tech Forums are quite similar,
although they likely service differing disciplines, or areas of interest.
I cannot speak for Facebook, because I don't 'do it'. [My wife does
occasionally, and seems a too bit much 'social' media chit chat for me.]
Not that TechNet or LinkedIn is totally devoid of misc chit chat, etc, but
Facebook seems to me to be >95% chit chat.
I became involved in TechNet, when the FlipChip IPC forum was still alive.
TechNet offered contact with individuals doing similar, or obliquely similar
processes, using similar materials. That distinction has blurred
significantly over the years.
My primary interest [as Inge knows] over the years has always been in the
hybrid microelectronics realm - simply explained as 'putting together that
which you stuff on your boards' - at least one layer of packaging below
yours. Microelectronics present challenges which many people are simply not
aware of. People like Joyce and Inge, with wirebonding experience can
relate.
In the olden-days, it was more often called Hybrid Microelectronics because
it really was a "hybrid" - combining desirable characteristics from many
different technologies [substrate - thin film, thick film, HTCC, LTCC, flex,
laminate, glass, etc[; from many different metallization technologies
[plating, thick film, thin film direct write, polymeric, etc.]; and offering
many ranges of packaging technologies [optical, hermetic, non-hermetic, chip
on board, chip on flex, chip on glass, glob top, ... etc.]. Those who best
nurtured that 'hybridization', typically enjoyed the challenges.
The areas where I can contribute on TechNet are primarily in the wire
bonding, platings for bonding [which sometimes offer certain similarities to
platings for solderable surface finishes], and device packaging. I have
done the hands-on processing & manufacturing work for SMD and Flip Chip
assembly for low cost commercial telecommunications devices as well as the
upper end items that we don't speak about, and others that reside within
someone's chest, the International Space Station's docking motor systems, or
even are on the Cassini spacecraft, still in the Saturnian system.
Now then, LinkedIn has specific groups for Wire Bonding, Device Assembly,
etc. And, the links appear to keep growing. Therefore, there is a wealth
of information exchange and growth taking place there, just as there is on
TechNet. You just may not see it - nor care about it :-)
But, being the 'modern man' and continuing to learn and grow, it is
mind-widening to continue to open myself to other disciplines and knowledge
[which TechNet offers]. I continue with the 'hybridization' mindset that
I've always had - learning about those seemingly unrelated materials,
processes, and problems and applying them, as applicable, to my needs and
applications - or offering what appears to be appropriate comment, on
occasion.
Finally, LinkedIn is supposedly viewed more often [certainly than TechNet]
by the HR types. So, if one is like me, over 50, over-experienced, and
looking for a job in my own locality, LinkedIn is a reasonable forum to
participate in.
By leaving the LinkedIn link on my 'signature' I do not 'brag', I do not
twist anyone's arm to 'link-in' etc, however, it is an extension of my
hand[shake] should anyone wish to link.
I enjoy both TechNet AND LinkedIn because of the learning and contributing
experience offered by both. There is nothing that says we have to belong to
ANY media group, and the last time I checked, most of us were still free to
select which one/s we desired to belong to.
So, do your own thing... as others have already stated. I am :-)
Steve Creswick
http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevencreswick
-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gumpert, Ben
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:58 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] EXTERNAL: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN
Brian,
You may not be on LinkedIN or Facebook, but you've been on TechNet for a
while. The interface may not be as fancy, but it's basically the same thing.
(Albeit with less social and more technical.)
Ben
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:20 AM
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Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN
Inge
I have neither friends nor am a friend of anyone. I have refused to
participate in any so-called social networks from the word go-get. I may
be missing something but I'll take that risk. Your 'friendship web' will
therefore always be missing one person!
Maybe we should have a network for anti-networkers :-D
Brian
On 24/08/2011 09:26, Inge wrote:
> Hi,
> well, I suppose that most of you are 'linked' to someone who is linked
> to someone who is linked...
> Interesting. I have friends who have up to 5,000 friends, and the
> linking and Facebooking avalanche goes on. Now, what will happen when we
> are linked together, either by means of LinkedIn, Facebook or other
> accumulation program? This is probably only the start of a gigantic
> 'friendship web'. Kind of a computer world's parallel to the 60's Flower
> power. One of my sons spend at least 1-5 hs a day chatting with his 565
> friends from all places on this planet. It's a fantastic world that
> opens wth just a mouse in your hand, but how will we play our roles in
> the future and what will be the fruitbringng results? Anyone with a
> crystal bal?
>
> /Inge
>
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