Well, only 15 minutes to lunch and I don't really want to do anything
productive, so I'll chime in here.
I have not really seen any benefit to the LinkedIN. I have accepted
requests from colleagues and friends, but don't do it myself. What I find
particularly irritating of late is that I am getting requests from friends
of friends or people I have never met. The ones from the headhunters are
particularly annoying. I am getting tired of responding "and how do I
know you?"
I do some with Facebook. I have it for three reasons: (1) to monitor my
three children (ages 19, 16, 12) and their accounts; (2) to communicate
with the Boy Scouts in my Troop (Scoutmaster) as this is their preferred
mode of communication when not in person; and (3) to annoy the hell out of
my siblings by posting ridiculous stuff on their accounts.
I put Technet into a whole different class. It is a valuable engineering
tool, well worth the time spent monitoring it. It is educational and a
signficant problem solver. The lessons shared in this forum make their
way into important IPC educational information. Yes, we have some
silliness once and a while, but there is no way you can get a l;arge group
of technical people like us and NOT have a need to occasionally be off
topic and have some fun.
Doug Pauls
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Hi Steve,
I agree with you completely about LinkedIn. I am also a FB'er, and it's
strictly social, I must say for me it's been pretty cool.
I've been able to hook-up with my Navy shipmates from my old squadrons who
I flew with over 30 years ago, and even have a reunion in the planning
stages in Pensacola, Florida next year. Don't think that ever would have
had happened without Facebook. Well it might have, but not without a whole
lot of work.
I guess it all depends what you want to get out of it, if you think it's
bothersome, then you won't find any use for it. I think being able to
communicate with old friends across the country and the world at the speed
of light for free is pretty cool...
Steve
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Ben,
In many respects LinkedIn Groups and IPC Tech Forums are quite similar,
although they likely service differing disciplines, or areas of interest.
I cannot speak for Facebook, because I don't 'do it'. [My wife does
occasionally, and seems a too bit much 'social' media chit chat for me.]
Not that TechNet or LinkedIn is totally devoid of misc chit chat, etc, but
Facebook seems to me to be >95% chit chat.
I became involved in TechNet, when the FlipChip IPC forum was still alive.
TechNet offered contact with individuals doing similar, or obliquely
similar processes, using similar materials. That distinction has blurred
significantly over the years.
My primary interest [as Inge knows] over the years has always been in the
hybrid microelectronics realm - simply explained as 'putting together that
which you stuff on your boards' - at least one layer of packaging below
yours. Microelectronics present challenges which many people are simply
not aware of. People like Joyce and Inge, with wirebonding experience can
relate.
In the olden-days, it was more often called Hybrid Microelectronics
because it really was a "hybrid" - combining desirable characteristics
from many different technologies [substrate - thin film, thick film, HTCC,
LTCC, flex, laminate, glass, etc[; from many different metallization
technologies [plating, thick film, thin film direct write, polymeric,
etc.]; and offering many ranges of packaging technologies [optical,
hermetic, non-hermetic, chip on board, chip on flex, chip on glass, glob
top, ... etc.]. Those who best nurtured that 'hybridization', typically
enjoyed the challenges.
The areas where I can contribute on TechNet are primarily in the wire
bonding, platings for bonding [which sometimes offer certain similarities
to platings for solderable surface finishes], and device packaging. I
have done the hands-on processing & manufacturing work for SMD and Flip
Chip assembly for low cost commercial telecommunications devices as well
as the upper end items that we don't speak about, and others that reside
within someone's chest, the International Space Station's docking motor
systems, or even are on the Cassini spacecraft, still in the Saturnian
system.
Now then, LinkedIn has specific groups for Wire Bonding, Device Assembly,
etc. And, the links appear to keep growing. Therefore, there is a wealth
of information exchange and growth taking place there, just as there is on
TechNet. You just may not see it - nor care about it :-)
But, being the 'modern man' and continuing to learn and grow, it is
mind-widening to continue to open myself to other disciplines and
knowledge [which TechNet offers]. I continue with the 'hybridization'
mindset that I've always had - learning about those seemingly unrelated
materials, processes, and problems and applying them, as applicable, to my
needs and applications - or offering what appears to be appropriate
comment, on occasion.
Finally, LinkedIn is supposedly viewed more often [certainly than TechNet]
by the HR types. So, if one is like me, over 50, over-experienced, and
looking for a job in my own locality, LinkedIn is a reasonable forum to
participate in.
By leaving the LinkedIn link on my 'signature' I do not 'brag', I do not
twist anyone's arm to 'link-in' etc, however, it is an extension of my
hand[shake] should anyone wish to link.
I enjoy both TechNet AND LinkedIn because of the learning and contributing
experience offered by both. There is nothing that says we have to belong
to ANY media group, and the last time I checked, most of us were still
free to select which one/s we desired to belong to.
So, do your own thing... as others have already stated. I am :-)
Steve Creswick
http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevencreswick
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Brian,
You may not be on LinkedIN or Facebook, but you've been on TechNet for a
while. The interface may not be as fancy, but it's basically the same
thing. (Albeit with less social and more technical.)
Ben
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Inge
I have neither friends nor am a friend of anyone. I have refused to
participate in any so-called social networks from the word go-get. I may
be missing something but I'll take that risk. Your 'friendship web' will
therefore always be missing one person!
Maybe we should have a network for anti-networkers :-D
Brian
On 24/08/2011 09:26, Inge wrote:
> Hi,
> well, I suppose that most of you are 'linked' to someone who is linked
> to someone who is linked...
> Interesting. I have friends who have up to 5,000 friends, and the
> linking and Facebooking avalanche goes on. Now, what will happen when we
> are linked together, either by means of LinkedIn, Facebook or other
> accumulation program? This is probably only the start of a gigantic
> 'friendship web'. Kind of a computer world's parallel to the 60's Flower
> power. One of my sons spend at least 1-5 hs a day chatting with his 565
> friends from all places on this planet. It's a fantastic world that
> opens wth just a mouse in your hand, but how will we play our roles in
> the future and what will be the fruitbringng results? Anyone with a
> crystal bal?
>
> /Inge
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