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Naw, you’re a friend in another special group of friends of mine. I suppose that a lot of the friends I have in my P-3 Orion group would be excluded from our TechNet group, and more likely than not find it rather boring anyway.

Just as you have an affinity for not flying over water, I have an affinity for not flying around on a single engine... [:^o

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: Steven Creswick [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:46 AM
To: 'TechNet E-Mail Forum'; 'Steve Gregory'
Subject: RE: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN

Steve,

I fly a powered parachute, does that count?  

I can loiter for a long time ...  low and slow.  
   [FAA frowns on us dropping stuff, however.]

I also have an affinity for not flying over water...
   S'pose that excludes me from your group...

Steve C

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:35 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN

Yep, and that's what I mean. But I don't think I have any fellow flightcrew members on this list....or do I?  ;^)

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stadem, Richard D.
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 11:25 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN

[I think being able to communicate with old friends across the country and the world at the speed of light for free is pretty cool...]

Did you not just do that?

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steve Gregory
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:18 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN

Hi Steve,

I agree with you completely about LinkedIn. I am also a FB'er, and it's strictly social, I must say for me it's been pretty cool. 

I've been able to hook-up with my Navy shipmates from my old squadrons who I flew with over 30 years ago, and even have a reunion in the planning stages in Pensacola, Florida next year. Don't think that ever would have had happened without Facebook. Well it might have, but not without a whole lot of work.

I guess it all depends what you want to get out of it, if you think it's bothersome, then you won't find any use for it. I think being able to communicate with old friends across the country and the world at the speed of light for free is pretty cool...

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Steven Creswick
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 10:53 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN

Ben,

In many respects LinkedIn Groups and IPC Tech Forums are quite similar, although they likely service differing disciplines, or areas of interest.

I cannot speak for Facebook, because I don't 'do it'.  [My wife does occasionally, and seems a too bit much 'social' media chit chat for me.]

Not that TechNet or LinkedIn is totally devoid of misc chit chat, etc, but Facebook seems to me to be >95% chit chat.

I became involved in TechNet, when the FlipChip IPC forum was still alive.  TechNet offered contact with individuals doing similar, or obliquely similar processes, using similar materials.  That distinction has blurred significantly over the years.

My primary interest [as Inge knows] over the years has always been in the hybrid microelectronics realm - simply explained as 'putting together that which you stuff on your boards' - at least one layer of packaging below yours.  Microelectronics present challenges which many people are simply not aware of.  People like Joyce and Inge, with wirebonding experience can relate.

In the olden-days, it was more often called Hybrid Microelectronics because it really was a "hybrid" - combining desirable characteristics from many different technologies [substrate - thin film, thick film, HTCC, LTCC, flex, laminate, glass, etc[; from many different metallization technologies [plating, thick film, thin film direct write, polymeric, etc.]; and offering many ranges of packaging technologies [optical, hermetic, non-hermetic, chip on board, chip on flex, chip on glass, glob top, ... etc.].  Those who best nurtured that 'hybridization', typically enjoyed the challenges. 

The areas where I can contribute on TechNet are primarily in the wire bonding, platings for bonding [which sometimes offer certain similarities to platings for solderable surface finishes], and device packaging.  I have done the hands-on processing & manufacturing work for SMD and Flip Chip assembly for low cost commercial telecommunications devices as well as the upper end items that we don't speak about, and others that reside within someone's chest, the International Space Station's docking motor systems, or even are on the Cassini spacecraft, still in the Saturnian system.

Now then, LinkedIn has specific groups for Wire Bonding, Device Assembly, etc.  And, the links appear to keep growing.  Therefore, there is a wealth of information exchange and growth taking place there, just as there is on TechNet.  You just may not see it - nor care about it  :-) 

But, being the 'modern man' and continuing to learn and grow, it is mind-widening to continue to open myself to other disciplines and knowledge [which TechNet offers].  I continue with the 'hybridization' mindset that I've always had - learning about those seemingly unrelated materials, processes, and problems and applying them, as applicable, to my needs and applications - or offering what appears to be appropriate comment, on occasion.

Finally, LinkedIn is supposedly viewed more often [certainly than TechNet] by the HR types.  So, if one is like me, over 50, over-experienced, and looking for a job in my own locality, LinkedIn is a reasonable forum to participate in.

By leaving the LinkedIn link on my 'signature' I do not 'brag', I do not twist anyone's arm to 'link-in' etc, however, it is an extension of my hand[shake] should anyone wish to link.

I enjoy both TechNet AND LinkedIn because of the learning and contributing experience offered by both.  There is nothing that says we have to belong to ANY media group, and the last time I checked, most of us were still free to select which one/s we desired to belong to.  

So, do your own thing... as others have already stated.   I am  :-)


Steve Creswick
http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevencreswick








-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Gumpert, Ben
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 6:58 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] EXTERNAL: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN

Brian,

You may not be on LinkedIN or Facebook, but you've been on TechNet for a while. The interface may not be as fancy, but it's basically the same thing. (Albeit with less social and more technical.)

Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2011 3:20 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: [TN] NTC:LinkedIN

Inge

I have neither friends nor am a friend of anyone. I have refused to 
participate in any so-called social networks from the word go-get. I may 
be missing something but I'll take that risk. Your 'friendship web' will 
therefore always be missing one person!

Maybe we should have a network for anti-networkers :-D

Brian

On 24/08/2011 09:26, Inge wrote:
> Hi,
> well, I suppose that most of you are 'linked' to someone who is linked
> to someone who is linked...
> Interesting. I have friends who have up to 5,000 friends, and the
> linking and Facebooking avalanche goes on. Now, what will happen when we
> are linked together, either by means of LinkedIn, Facebook or other
> accumulation program? This is probably only the start of a gigantic
> 'friendship web'. Kind of a computer world's parallel to the 60's Flower
> power. One of my sons spend at least 1-5 hs a day chatting with his 565
> friends from all places on this planet. It's a fantastic world that
> opens wth just a mouse in your hand, but how will we play our roles in
> the future and what will be the fruitbringng results? Anyone with a
> crystal bal?
>
> /Inge
>
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