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Hi, Pete
Rex nailed it. Perfectly. 
You and I and all of us understand the point of the EU legislation was to be "green" or at least appear to be. However, lead in solder was already "green", as it turns out. Rex was simply stating that the due diligence was never done by the EU before they imposed the lead ban and then they and Mr. Lasky tooted their own horns and announced that lead-free solder was a huge success. But the whole world knows it was just the opposite of a huge success in terms of its impact on the environment, and it fostered no benefits in terms of health improvement directly because there were none required. In fact, as both Rex and Mr. Lasky have agreed, the lead ban instigated the growth of illegal (and unnecessary) recycling industries that have contributed to the  pollution in China's rivers, and has had a very negative direct health impact on the populations of large cities in China, India, and elsewhere. 

Lead ingestion into the human body from solder was never an issue to begin with.

As I stated in my original post on this subject, the only people who CAN lay claim for any success with regards to lead-free reliability are those who made it work in spite of the bumbling idiots who instigated it without any regard to the effects of their actions, and none of those people who made it work were government bureaucrats. The people who made it work had names like Hwang, Hillman, Hillman, Gregory, Wenger, Engelmaier, et al.
 
And I, for one, do not accept that it is a done deal. Someday, when the EU politicians (and others) who stand to lose face in this issue are gone, the almighty dollar will make leaded solder look really good again. 

And guess what? The dollar always wins.
dean

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Rex Waygood
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2011 8:30 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Lead Free solder has performed well...

I don't think I missed the point at all. 
:-)
Rex

Sent by me on my iPhone. 


On 12 Aug 2011, at 14:28, "Pete" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Rex. you may have missed the point.
> 
> Everything about the lead free legislation is wrong, from it's intended purpose to it's end result.  From the standpoint that the whole point was to help the environment, and it's more likely to have increased environmental damage, it's been a collossal failure.
> 
> But, we're stuck with it.  Japan's petition is going to be met with the same smug reaction that was applied when the EU used this legistlation to prove their ability to shape global legislation.  So complaining about it isn't going to help.  The damage is done, the best we can do is learn the best way to deal with it.  So far, the industry has done a commendable job learning to accomplish something we thought nearly impossible.  So
> 
> It's just tough for an engineering mentality to put so much effort into something we know is far from the best answer.
> 
> Pete
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