Ohhh, I dunno. If you are looking to cure the coating in a manner that
does not quench the fluorescence, keep the parts dry, don't flood it with
high intensity (more than simple blacklight bulbs) and don't make it very
hot. Many coating manufacturers may be able to provide you with
alternative cure schedules that do not degrade fluorescence.
Doug Pauls
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Not very promising or reliable... Thanks.
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Joyce,
In addition to the excellent information that Phil offers, I have seen
high levels of heat degrade UV fluorescence (above 100C). I have also
seen assemblies come back to our service centers after being in the field
for 20-30 years and the fluorescence is often dramatically less, or even
gone completely. They do degrade with time.
Doug Pauls
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Joyce,
The degree of quenching of fluorescent tracer during UV cure depends
primarily on 2 factors. 1. The wavelength and intensity of UV radiation
and 2. The degree of loading of UV tracer in the formulation.
The UV tracer is one of the more expensive ingredients in the formulation
and so its use is typically kept to the lowest dose that will give
'acceptable' fluorescence for inspection purposes... the definition of
'acceptable' varies between material manufacturers and not all UV coatings
are equal in this regard.
Most of the common UV tracers have absorbtion peaks in the 360-400nm
range. Formulations prepared with initiation packages that are active in
this range will suffer from quenching more than those with initiation
packages primarily formulated in the 250-300nm range.
Mercury doped lamps (Fusion 'H' or 'H+' style) produce most of their
intensity in the 250-350 nm ranges and so typically 'quench' the UV tracer
less than a "D' style lamp which has a significant output of intensity at
these longer wavelengths.
My advice, look for materials formulated with more UV tracer and
initiation packages designed to activate at lower wavelengths, with lower
required overall dose (combination of intensity and time) and you should
be able to find materials that fluoresce very strongly post-cure - at
least as well as conventional coating materials. Also, avoid multiple
cure exposures wherever possible, for a whole number of reasons.
Hope this helps,
Phil.
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On 17 Jun 2011, at 01:55, Joyce Koo wrote:
> But Ha, you guys don't know what you missing: Doug Pauls conformal coat
webinar just finished today! Definitely increased few notch on the
coating IQ. Now: what is the element causes coating FL? My Friday
Questions: If you use UV coating, some curing condition will quench the
FL. How do you prevent that?
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> Wow, you smarties. I am sure feel like dummynium.
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> Dave,
>
> I believe the element you are quizzing us on is ruba-dub-Dubnium, but it
> seems to have progressed through the names Dubnium 1968, Neilsbohrium
1970,
> Hahnium 1970, Joliotium (recommended) 1994, and finally back to Dubnium
in
> 1997.
>
> Boy these guys need to get a life...
>
>
>
> Element 105 - Dubnium was synthesized by a Soviet team in 1968
> was re-synthesized by the same Soviet team in 1970, and called
Neilsbohrium
> Element 105 - Hahnium was synthesized by A US team in 1970
> The name Joliotium was recommended in 1994
> The name Dubnium was finally accepted in 1997
>
>
>
> Steve Creswick
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>
>
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> Hi folks - Here is the Friday Element Quiz Question (this one may take
> some sleuthing so the quiz is going out early):
>
> The Question:
>
> This element has a very contentious history pertaining to who actually
> first discovered it. This element has been produced by bombarding
> americium-243 with neon-22 atoms and bombarding californium-249 with
> nitrogen-15 atoms. The element was "finally" named in 1997. The longest
> lived isotope of this element has a half life of 34 seconds.
>
> Bonus Question: List the two names that were used for this element prior
> to 1997.
>
>
> The quiz winner will get the services of Clumpy and Kloumpios for the
> week.
>
> So far Clumpy and Kloumpios have:
>
> Week 1 Lamar Young, SCS Coatings
> - accomplished nothing (drank lots of coffee)
>
> Week 2 Bev Christian, RIM
> - conducted REACH material testing
>
> Week 3 Drew Meyer, Benchmark Electronics Inc.
> - Solderability testing and mowed the lawn
>
> Week 4 Ian Fox, Goodrich
> - had an epic journey of travel
>
> Week 4 Gary Ferrari, Garrick Global
> - unknown
>
> Week 5 Fredrick Miller, Astrolab
> - unknown
>
> Week 6 David Nelson, Raytheon
> - Were tackling dummys for Dallas Cowboys
>
> Week 7 Graham Collins, L3 Communications
> - Cleaned gutters and painted window trim
>
> Week 8 Bill Noel, ITT Geospatial Systems Division
> - unknown
>
> Week 9 Steve Gregory of RD Circuits
> - unknown
>
> Week 10 David Bealer of Watchfire Signs
> - descaled the in-line wash machine! Ouch!
>
> Week 11 Dick Krug of Sparton Corporation
> - assisted with AS9100 quality management systems requirements audit
>
> Week 12 Steve Creswick of Balanced Enterprise Solutions
> - Acted as Steve's "go fer" due to a broken leg!
>
> Week 13 Gebhard Neifer, Delphi
> - conducted a plasma pre treatment Taguchi DOE for a sealing process
>
> Week 14 Bev Christian, RIM
> - assisted with a tin pest investigation/test
>
> Week 15 Bev Christian, RIM
> - assisted Bev shoveling snow
>
> Week 16 David Bealer of Waatchfire Signs
> - assisted with reflow profiling
>
> Week 17 Brian Ellis, rumored to be retired
> - assisted with rewiring the house, had a tractor accident and found
> his cousin Kloumpios
>
> Week 18 Denny Fritz, SAIC
> - assisted with tin whisker inspection/examinations
>
> Week 19 Graham Collins, L3 Communications
> - assisted with scraping barnacles, boat paint and boat engine
> maintenance
>
> Week 20 Mark Woolley, PTRL Laboratory Avaya
> - assisted with weather observations (70F to snow) and resolving
> electrochemical migration failures
>
> Week 20 Tom Carroll, Boeing Defense, Space and Security
> - assisted with commercial aircraft galley inspection
>
> Week 21 Brian Ellis, supposedly retired, and Tom Carroll, Boeing
Defense,
> Space and Security
> - assisted with root cause corrective action tasks
> - assisted with nothing but catching up with the family
>
> Week 22 Drew Meyer, Benchmark Electronics Inc.
> - assisted with metallographic cross-sections and Dye & Pry testing
>
> Week 23 Bev Christian, RIM
> - assisted with a creep corrosion project and the setting up of an
oxygen
> bomb
>
> Week 24 Steve Gregory, RD Circuits
> - assisted with ?????
>
> Everyone have a great weekend.
>
> Dave Hillman
> Rockwell Collins
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