Karen,
Ladies age like fine wines, becoming better with age.
As in contrast to guys like Hillman and I, who become curmudgeons with
age. Think Statler and Waldorf from the Muppets.
Doug Pauls
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Re: [TN] "The Curse of IPC-A-610 and IPC-J-STD-001" - opinion piece by
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Hey, I resemble that remark, and I disagree. We old ladies are very
useful
and contain a wealth of historical business/technology information in our
graying heads. I think I'm pretty open to reason and new ideas.
Karen Tellefsen - Electrical Testing
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Re: [TN] "The Curse of IPC-A-610 and IPC-J-STD-001" - opinion piece by
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From: Inge Hernefjord <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 20:21:05
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Subject: Re: [TN] "The Curse of IPC-A-610 and IPC-J-STD-001" - opinion
piece by James Smith
Joyce,
I'm sure he is 50+ or even more. Old dogs (like me) often need to prove
that we are still to count upon and it can result in such peculiar and
pathetic writings, while younger people do not waste their time on
self-assertion. Elderly (like me) not seldom become argumentative and go
to
attack...with open fly....
Inge
On 8 May 2011 12:57, Joyce Koo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> May be he is old enough never see the fine pitch, PoP, split ground MCM,
> etc. in his life(I mean work life)? May be he is belong to "Mr. Smith
goes
> to Washington" movie age? That would put him on different planet. Anyone
> know how old is he? (Hopefully, not one of MIT computer generated
technical
> paper, that would be the other possibility).
> --------------------------
> Sent using BlackBerry
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Inge Hernefjord [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 03:01 AM
> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [TN] "The Curse of IPC-A-610 and IPC-J-STD-001" - opinion
> piece by James Smith
>
> Thanks, Steve.
>
> This man, is obviously well oriented in science, no doubt. His article
> shows
> he got experience from decades of work in the electronics industry. He
is
> absolutely right when he says that assembly should be done failfree just
> from the beginning. Correct. A 10 year old kid can admit that. But then
he
> writes ' Perfect soldering, whether by hand or machine, is not
difficult' .
> With other words, the man has never installed a new p-p or had a
shipment
> of
> one million bad ICs from the East, never had contaminations on the
boards
> from a less reliable supplier, never been told to reduce cost by 25 %,
> never
> had to continue production after a fire, never got
> millions of tantalum caps with red phosphorous....the list could stretch
> around the moon.
>
> Who has not been dreaming of ' doing all right from the beginning' ! But
> the
> reality is against such perfection. Daily life consists of so many
> variables, known an unknown, that you can never promise 100% failfree
> production the whole day. I've been at Ericsson for a long period, you
bet
> we tried to 'do right from the beginning' , because there is a fortune
to
> save if you can get rid of all obstacles. But even this giant with
billions
> in resources stumbled sometimes on the line. I've participated in
company
> meetings with up to 100 specialists in order to solve a mystery and get
the
> machines to run again.
>
> ' Perfect soldering, whether by hand or machine, is not difficult.'
Wonder
> what planet he lives on ?
>
> The author of the upsetting article is probably a hardworking and loyal
> guy,
> like most of us, but like the reality I pointed at above, he is not
perfect
> either.
>
>
> Inge
>
>
>
>
> On 8 May 2011 01:29, Steven Creswick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Inge - here is the original post
> >
> > Best wishes
> >
> > Steve
> > Steve Creswick
> > http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevencreswick
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Graham Collins
> > Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 12:15 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [TN] "The Curse of IPC-A-610 and IPC-J-STD-001" - opinion
piece
> by
> > James Smith
> >
> > Anyone else read this?
> >
http://www.assemblymag.com/Articles/Blog/BNP_GUID_9-5-2006_A_10000000000
> > 001038283
> >
> >
> > All I can say is "wow". Well, I could go on for hours, but... wow.
> > Not quite how I see these specs! Working on military stuff I can
attest
> > that changing from MIL-STD-2000 to the IPC specs was a significant
> > improvement in reality, reliability, and productivity, but that's not
> > how he sees it.
> >
> > regards,
> >
> > Graham Collins
> > Halifax Production Engineering
> > L-3 communications Electronic Systems
> > (902) 873-2000 ext. 6215
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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