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Gene Felder <[log in to unmask]>
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This is free advice - for what it is worth.

Many of us get complacent, a very natural thing to do. Changing the world,
the US government, and the corporation is fine, but it may be more
productive to change ourselves.

Some ideas:
- Update your resume; read it like you are a prospective employer
- Go on job interviews while you have a job (your level of confidence will
be higher)
- Ask your boss what additional skill sets would make you more valuable
- Add to your skill sets
- A degree, a certification, how about reading a book?

We live in a fast paced world; look what happened to 3Com Corporation's Palm
Pilot.
See 1998 articles at http://www.nytimes.com/keyword/palm-pilot 
"FOR two years, the Palm Pilot has had a unique hold on consumers. More than
a million of the little computers have been sold. It has no keyboard, but it
has room for many addresses, a date book, games and translators." 
"And it has had next to no competition. That is changing."
"Current versions of the Palm Pilot, priced from $250 to $370, have become
information-age fashion accessories. The new Palm III, which will be
available in April, is to cost $399."
"an increase in memory from one to two megabytes".

Gene Felder
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-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Robert Kondner
Sent: 2011 - 04 - 26 10:57 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] laid off

And how do you enforce that, through the barrel of a gun?

 Who Is John Galt?

Over and Out on this subject
Bob K.


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Goulet
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 1:47 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] laid off

My ideas are: 

1.   NO R&D labs are allowed to be setup in other countries never mind give
them tax credits like they did when Universal Intruments was set up in China
to help give away our pick & place technology and software, BGA tecknologies
etc.. 

2. No expenses allowed for travel, lodging flights for Sales, Engineering,
Management to support over sea operations or while moving jobs out of the
US. 

    - These tax expenses would only be allowed in the work to transfer
products and jobs back to the United States. 

3. The US should do like Russia and buy oil rigs and only allow US ownedoil
rigs on federal land and all of the oil and gas stays in the united states. 

4. Currently our oil, drilled on federal land gets shipped to the highest
bidder and they are not paying 450 million a year in taxes either. 

5. No oil and gas gets shipped out of the United States until the gas prices
go back to $1,25. 

6. No oil and gas speculation buying and selling of our countries natural
resources is allowed. These natural resources belong to the American
citizens and we should only be paying for the expenses and a flat fee of 20%
profit not 2000 or more percent. 

7. No American subsidies for companies making a profit!! The subsidy was
initiated to get get companies going to create jobs. Once the company is
solvent you don't keep getting subsidies and then shaft the American
Consumer. Once the company is profitable they should be paying taxes not
receiving money from tax payers and then paying gas taxes also. 



None  of the politicians have talked about these points in the last 15
years. When are they going to wake up?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Syed Ahmad" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 12:06:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TN] laid off 

Government should make laws or corporations pledge/reform themselves 

1. Corporations should keep up the salaries of their employees at least with
the inflation 2. Layoffs mean no bonuses for anyone 3. Losses mean no
bonuses for anyone 4. Every employee (not just the executives) gets bonuses
according to their base salaries 5. Base salaries within a company fall on a
bell curve with minimum and maximum salary falling within average +/- a
predetermined standard deviation. 
6. Huge profits shared with schools and infrastructure 

I have worked in the US since 1978 including Intel, National and Micron.
Though internal and external forces acting on the US economy and jobs are
overwhelming but if the corporations care about their employees, they can
always come up with ways to retrain and redistribute their work force or
work with industry to exchange employees. 

A layoff at any age is detrimental not only to a person but can affect the
whole family and in some cases the whole community. I have seen divorces and
children separated from their parents. 

Our political atmosphere is quite toxic. Fear and hate of the word socialism
can have any constructive thought for improvement in the job situation and
economy annihilated immediately. Some people do not consider capitalism
valid if an iota of compassion enters its realm. 

I did see Intel coming up with solutions to limit layoffs when I was with
them in the 80s and Micron trying to come up with a formula to distribute
portions of profits all the way to bottom in the 90s but necessarily much
more needs to be done for the people who make these corporations succeed and
help fill the pockets of their executives. When corporations try to do that,
they see greater success. 

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Woolley, Mark D. (Mark)
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:38 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] laid off 

So true, John. 
I have seen people with 20+ years experience cut. 
Today's economy is just beginning to move back to the US, so I don't' expect
a high increase in technical employment for several years yet. 

mark 

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of John Goulet
Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:36 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] laid off 

Sorry to hear the bad news. 

I got laid off over a year ago even though I was the one bringing in the new
technology, developing the new proceses and supporting the manufacturing
processes and equipment. Since none of the politicians are talking about
changing the laws and tax benefits given to the big corporations that ship
our jobs overseas, I don't see any changes that will help anyone to get a
good paying job. Good luck if your over 55 and even a healthy athletic 62
year old won't even  be considered even though they could because of
experience and energy can run circles around the overweight and lazy 30-40
year olds. 



Even the government FBI, CIA  won't hire anyone over 25. So much for
anti-discrimination laws. 

 Since they can lay you off based on salary, the best workers with great
performance reviews are being laid off and the law doesn't protect you. 

  
----- Original Message -----
From: "pearl petras" <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 7:17:57 PM
Subject: [TN] laid off 

Well the economy hit home last week.  I normally follow, lurk, and
occasionally post to Technet from my work address, but got suddenly laid off
last week Tuesday after 15 yrs w/the co. - that address now bounces.  This
was my anonymous log in, if I wanted to post a little more carefully.  I
will probably sign off for a while.  I don't know if I will get back into
the electronics area - not a lot of options on the prairies of western
Canada, and I really don't want to move right now.  Will probably look at
some other options like the mining sector, or perhaps the consulting
industry, or a couple other options.  Anyway, just wanted to say thanks for
sharing all of your help and knowledge.  I learned so much.  Genny, aka
"Pearl" 

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