Phil & Nigel,
Yes if money is no object I would have to say Agile is probably the best
document control product on the market. But if you need a lot of seats Agile
can start to become a very expensive option.
Oracle needed to buy Agile because their own ECO process is really really bad.
The only way Oracle can do proper Eng Documentation & ECO process is 
with very very heavy customization, you'll need a team of Oracle experts 
and to maintain that when patches come out to make sure your customizations still work!!
I've been at two companies that switched from home grown systems, one picked SAP 
the other picked Oracle. I can honestly say after 10 years Oracle has virtually no 
improvement in their product other than saying they bought Agile.
Agile is not perfect either. But I will say being part of both transitions
SAP we could use with none or very little customization to do documentation pretty well
Oracle there was no way possible you either had to customize the hell out of it or buy Agile
Also, and that is a pretty big price tag.

Side note the Mechanical CAD companies Pro-E & Solidworks offer Enterprise PDM / Documentation tools also
I have not looked into their capabilities as of yet though.
But these would not of course have all the Human Resource, Accounting, Running the business Modules like a SAP or Oracle.
So it depends if one is looking for something to run the whole company or just provide a Documentation Control Process.

Bob


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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Nigel Burtt
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Agile was taken over by Oracle - still exists and though undoubtedly expensive 
worked pretty well for my previous employer, Dolby Labs

http://www.oracle.com/us/products/applications/agile/index.html

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