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 Hi Joyce,
Actually, electrical resistivity is also not a fixed number for ED Cu, for the same reason that density is not fixed nor is etch rate, ductility and tensile strength.
None of this applies to rolled cu foil.
Werner

 


 

 

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From: Joyce Koo <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Fri, Feb 25, 2011 2:13 pm
Subject: RE: [TN] Copper oz



Thanks for the warning.  Foil thicknessand current carrying capability at ultra thin trace would be interesting toknow.  Will see if flex guys got any tighten spec….Thanks again. 
 



From: Werner Engelmaier [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Friday, February 25, 20112:08 PM
To: [log in to unmask];Joyce Koo
Subject: Re: [TN] Copper oz

 

Joyce,
The best table is Table 1-1 in IPC-4562; however, be careful with thesenumbers—the thickness is given as 'Nominal Thickness' for a reason. ED Cu doesnot have a fixed density, and it also has bond enhancement treatments. Andsince Cu is solder by weight, foil thickness is customarily given in oz/ft2.

Werner (former chair of the copper foilcommittee)

 

 

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Subject: [TN] Copper oz

Guys and gals,








 
Any of young chaps know the table of Cu oz vs micron thickness in IPC std? I 








 
know what the thickness should be, but need "official" table number with a spec.  








 
Friday thing. Thx.  








 
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Could stitch bonding not be a solution to this issue?








 









 
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Can this be entered into a "Which two chips are wired alike contest"?








 
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Hi All,








 
 








 
Some of might remember last year sometime when I posted a photo of something








 
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I can't believe we even quoted this job, much less accomplished it. There's








 
024 wires there, and BTW, that's 20-mil pitch. Simply astounding.








 
 








 
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