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The minimum electrical clearance on the fab drawing is a general clearance rule. If there are specific components that require specific spacing, that goes onto the assembly drawing. This is standard practice in the industry. I can provide examples of this, if you wish.

From: Jack Olson [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 10:40 AM
To: Stadem, Richard D.
Cc: TechNet E-Mail Forum
Subject: Re: [TN] Electrical Clearance as stated in IPC standards

Although you inhabit a different world than I do (you are in the real world, I am in a theoretical cubicle), I still have to question this philosophy. If an electrical engineer has determined that he needs a 50mil gap (after derating for fab allowances, of course), and some kind of plating or contamination problem has reduced the desired 50 mil gap to a slightly over the 6-10mil minimum you used in your example, and your inspectors are trained to only look at the minimum, then acceptance of these boards could be a risk, in my mind.
I'm not suggesting that your inspectors need to know the intent of the designer, but this example is clearly rejectable in IPC-A-600 2.10.1.2

I'm just sayin'....

Jack

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On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 10:08 AM, Stadem, Richard D. <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
Standard industry practice is to put the minimum electrical clearance for a given CCA on the fabrication drawing of the PWB for that CCA. It typically ranges from .006" to .010". Of course, it depends (TM) on the design, application, and use environment. The assembly operators and inspectors for my client companies are trained to inspect to that minimum clearance, reject if violated, and then the ME/QE|DE|Customer FAI disposition as to whether it is to be reworked or use-as-is.

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>] On Behalf Of Jack Olson
Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2011 9:51 AM
To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [TN] Electrical Clearance as stated in IPC standards

I agree with what Gary says in principle. Clearances set by voltage
requirements will be much larger than MINIMUM clearances for different classes
in IPC.
But I have to comment that since the scenario put forth by Wee Mei stated
"during bare board inspection (class 3 requirement)", if the defects are
rejectable by criteria in IPC-A-600, then the boards are rejectable. period.
What I mean is, an inspector can't be expected to know what the circuit is
intended to do, and if manufacturing defects violate the criteria, its rejectable.
If someone else wants to evaluate the situation and determines that the
defect won't affect the circuit performance, then the boards MAY be accepted
anyway.
Your quote said "the argument kick-in that it is not a violation and can be
acceptable" is half right. It CAN be acceptable, but it IS a violation.
I hope the manufacturer is not bullying you into accepting defective boards
based on knowledge of the circuit, telling you not to worry about the defect
because the circuit should still work okay. It should be the customer that
makes that decision, right?

Jack

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On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 10:14:10 -0500, Gary Ferrari
<[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:

>Lum Wee Mei,
>
>Minimum electrical clearance is based on the voltage used in the design.
>The greater the voltage, the greater the required spacing. In your
>example, the spacing used was much larger than the required minimum
>electrical clearance, based on voltage. Although the defect reduced the
>spacing beyond what is considered acceptable, per the artwork, the end
>result still did not violate the voltage based electrical clearance. In
>this case, the board may be accepted, this time. The supplier should not
>count on you accepting such product quality in the future.
>
>Regards,
>
>Gary F.
>
>On 2/17/2011 12:26 AM, Lum Wee Mei wrote:
>> Dear All,
>>
>> Until now, I am still very curious about this term "electrical clearance" that
is used on the IPC standards. Very often, the standard will says something like
"it is acceptable as long as it meets the electrical clearance". As I did not have
the IPC standards with me when I right this, allow me to use a scenario to
illustrate my query :
>>
>> A digital PCB has some pockets of power and ground area fills with minimum
trace width/clearance of say 6mil/6mil (0.15mm/0.15mm) and power trace
width of 50mil. During bare board inspection (Class 3 requirement), one of the
power trace that run along side of the ground fill, has an excessive copper
protrusion that reduce the physical conductor to conductor clearance by 60%.
Based on the IPC-A-600, it has violate the conductor to conductor clearance.
However, the argument kick-in that it is not a violation and can be acceptable
because the remaining clearance of 40% is much larger than the electrical
clearance stated in IPC-2221 for that application. Now, how should this be
resolved?
>>
>> Thanks and Regards,
>> ~ Wee Mei ~
>>
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