Doug is correct again. What is it, three times today already?
You can find many rework/repair specs, and I can rattle off the following:
DS/DS DIN EN 61192-5 (military depot rework)
GOST R 51039
IEC 61192-5
IEC 61188-5
MIL-STD-2177 (rework and repair of missile electronics)
NAVAIR 4790
NAVAIR 13680.1C
TechAmerica GEIA-HB-0005-3 (Implications of rework/repair of lead-free electronics in military and high-rel CCAs)
TSE TS-7991 Rework, repair, and modifications of ocean-going electronics
These are just a handful of the literally hundreds of rework/repair specs utilized by many different industries and military branches.
And in my opinion, if any of the authors truly understood IPC 7711/7721, most of these would all be completely redundant. Many of these are actually copies or re-writes of the IPC 7711/21 or it's precursors.
Sufficient unto today are our IPC specifications thereof. Lead us not into government confusion.
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OK, but I would recommend sticking with the IPC ones. The problem that I
have seen with many of these field repair manuals, ours included, is that
they have a tendency to either not have a custodian or more appropriately,
a funded custodian, to keep them up to date. As slow as the IPC moves
sometimes, I think you get the most modern of advice in those documents,
compared with others.
Doug Pauls
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Thank you for your insights Doug and Dennis.
Doug, I am trying to come up with a comprehensive list of documents that
we can refer to (and purchase if possible)
Thanks,
Amol
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OH MR. PAULS, and others.
My SAIC contract reports to the Miniature and Microminiature (2M) repair
group at NAVSEA Crane. Turns out that group is worthy keeper of the 2M
repair manual (all 700+ pages) that goes to Navy Suface, NAVAIR, Marines,
and Coast Guard. At least that is a part of the US military. Also, Crane
has been designated as Lead, DoD Soldering Standards, and I believe that
includes repair. Finally, the Armed Services, and I think some other
Federal groups, have formed the "Soldering Technology Working Group",
which just finished meeting in late August.
I have copied Andy Ganster of the Crane 2M group who has compiled a
listing of many standards for the STWG. I am asking Andy whether the
information you seek is publicly available, as I only know OF the STWG,
and am not a member - just a lowly contracting Beltway Bandit, sorta like
Rockwell Collins.
Andy can you answer Amol's question? If you can't post to IPC TechNet,
send to me, and I will post. Thanks.
Denny Fritz
SAIC
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Amol,
hat depends on what you mean by "standards", "out there" and "industry".
ood lord, I am starting to sound like President Clinton.
Most of your military repair depots will have standard repair practices.
nd since the Army never talks to the Navy that never talks to the Air
orce, all of whom ignore the Coast Guard, they all have separate manuals.
Sometimes these manuals are up to date, sometimes not. Sometimes they
re publicly available, sometimes not. Then there is NASA.
Most of us Class 3 avionics manufacturers have field service manuals that
ave basic practices in them, so that we don't have to put that kind of
nformation into the individual product maintenance manuals. Sometimes
hat is considered proprietary (ours is) and sometimes not. Sometimes the
ndividual airlines (such as Delta or Lufthansa) maintain their own
eneral manuals.
I don't have much experience in the Telecom world, but I would presume it
ould be much the same.
What is it you are trying to do exactly?
Doug Pauls
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ear Technetters,
am looking to make a list of all rework/repair standards out there in
he industry. I already have IPC 7711 and 7721. Are there any
thers....JEDEC? MIL? Etc that you are aware of or are using?
Thanks,
mol
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