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 ]Hi Wayne,
Fillets, with some exceptions, are witness to the fact that stress concentration geometries have been avoided and thus have for the most part a cosmetic function. For this purpose it is quite is possible to prescribe generic requirements as was done in 610.
Solder joints height is one of the [only] four first-order parameters—DNP, delta-CTE, delta-T, SJ height [add lead stiffness for leaded components with truly compliant leads]—responsible to determine SJ fatigue life. Just as there cannot be requirements for DNP, delta-CTE  and delta-T, there cannot be one for SJ height because there cannot be one for reliability. This comes from the fact that each product has different reliability requirements as to design life and acceptable failure probability. In addition, the number and different types of components play a role as well [see attached Engelmaier, W., “How toEstimate Solder Joint Reliability, Part 2,” Global SMT & Packaging, Vol.7, No. 10, October 2007, pp. 64-66]. 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Thayer, Wayne - IIW <[log in to unmask]>
To: Werner Engelmaier <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 11:02 pm
Subject: RE: [TN] solder joint height



Hi Werner-
 
While I am in deference to yourunquestionable expertise in these matters, I am still perplexed because many ofthe articles I have read about solder joint height for leadless components suggestit is more important than fillet size, yet IPC 610 provides simple, excellentguidance for the latter but not the former, which is quite simple to measure. As with Class I, II, & III, it should not be difficult to provide a set ofstandards contract assemblers can easily adhere to and be checked for.
 
What is it about solder joint height thatputs it in a completely different category from fillets?
 
Wayne
 



From: WernerEngelmaier [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Wednesday, July 21, 20102:00 PM
To: [log in to unmask]; Thayer, Wayne- IIW
Subject: Re: [TN] solder jointheight

 

Hi Wayne,
...but there are. all you have to do is look at IPC-D-279 for guidelines. Therecannot be requirements, because everybody's details/needs are different.
Werner

 

 

 

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Sent: Wed, Jul 21, 2010 9:18 am
Subject: Re: [TN] solder joint height

Hi Werner-








 









 
You may recall I brought this issue up a few months ago too.  The basic question 








 
I have is








 









 
If solder joint height is important for longevity/reliability, why aren't there 








 
IPC guidelines/requirements for them?  As noted previously, tungsten rods are 








 
available in almost any diameter and they can be used as a simple "quick check" 








 
tool for this application.








 









 
Wayne








 









 
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Werner Engelmaier








 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 1:01 PM








 
To: [log in to unmask]








 
Subject: Re: [TN] solder joint height








 









 
 )Dale,








 
The answer is a qualified YES.








 
What are the sizes of these ceramic chip components and the Alloy-42-dominated 








 
SOT? When do you see those cracks [thermal history]? What are the QUAL 








 
requirements?








 
What is the real use environment?








 
I take it this is SnPb solder.








 
Regardless of these answers, a greater SJ height enhances reliability-you may 








 
want to take a look at the attached reliability article (Engelmaier,W., 








 
"Achieving Solder Joint Reliability in a Lead-Free World, Part 1," GlobalSMT & 








 
Packaging, Vol. 7, No. 6, June 2007, pp. 40-42).  .








 









 









 
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From: Hart, Dale L CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RXSA <[log in to unmask]>








 
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Sent: Tue, Jul 20, 2010 12:51 pm








 
Subject: Re: [TN] solder joint height








 









 









 
Air Force often uses CCA's as circuit card assemblies, sorry for the confusion.








 









 
The type of components are surface mount resistors, capacitor and I believe a








 









 
SOT with gull wing leads.








 









 









 









 
My problem is do I suggest their solder joint height isn't sufficient enough to








 









 
ensure a reliable assembly on an aircraft.








 









 









 









 









 









 
dlh








 









 









 









 
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Werner Engelmaier








 









 
Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 11:19 AM








 









 
To: [log in to unmask]








 









 
Subject: Re: [TN] solder joint height








 









 









 









 









 









 
 Hi Dale,








 









 
Do you mean CGA's [column grid arrays]? If not, what do you mean by cca?








 









 









 









 
 610, Class 3 or otherwise, only addresses quality, not reliability-for that you








 









 
need to go to IPC-D-279.








 









 









 









 
While the absence of solder fillets can reduce fatigue life, the presence of








 









 
fillets, 'robust' or otherwise, does not have any positive first-order impact.








 









 
However, solder joint height does.








 









 









 









 









 









 
 You may be looking at IMC crystals.








 









 
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From: Hart, Dale L CTR USAF AFMC AFRL/RXSA <[log in to unmask]>








 









 
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Sent: Tue, Jul 20, 2010 9:23 am








 









 
Subject: [TN] solder joint height








 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 
We have been doing a some analysis of cca's for the Air Force consisting of








 









 









 









 
SMT.  The visual inspection of the solder joints looks very good all








 









 









 









 
characteristics above the suggest minimum for class 3 of 610.  The solder








 









 









 









 
fillets in some instances could be characterized as being robust.  In








 









 









 









 
cross-sectional analysis however, the solder joint height of the components








 









 









 









 
electrical termination above the land has been perhaps 0.025 mm to the point








 









 









 









 
of needing a SEM to look at the land-solder-component lead interface.








 









 









 









 
Closer examination in these areas revealed small cracks in the grain








 









 









 









 
boundaries.  I used the term grain boundaries because the solder in these








 









 









 









 
areas do not resemble the colonies observed in the bulk solder of the








 









 









 









 
fillet.  In some of these instances the land is often deformed in the shape








 









 









 









 
of the component lead.








 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 
Would these joints although stronger be more susceptible to fatigue or








 









 









 









 
overload failure?








 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 
What are the implications if these cca's are encapsulated?








 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 
What suggestions could be offered to the manufacturer?








 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 









 
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