Hi Paul - we are using diamond polishing solutions and SiC papers for
grinding. We process about 600 cross sections a year so the cost of the
cross-sectioning materials in such a low volume flow hasn't been an issue
for us. I know that the diamond polishing solutions can be a budgetary
issue for some laboratories. But man - the polish you get from diamond is
sooo much better than SiC.
Dave Hillman
Rockwell Collins
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Just out of curiosity is every one using SiC instead of diamond for
cutting and lapping?
Paul
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Steve,
Good observation! This is one of the things that lead my lab manager to
determine that the voids were an artifact of preparation and were not
caused by the solder paste and/or manufacturing process. The re-polished
samples look GREAT.
Bev
RIM
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Another thing that's weird, is that you see the intermetallic layer even
where the voids are...how does that happen?
Steve
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Hi All,
Looks as though sample preparation condition is less than ideal. Sample is
a
little rounded and it appears that the voids might in fact be embedded
debris from the polishing equipment(?) I'm sure Vladimir would agree - get
it in the SEM to be sure! Need some better imaging and if possible EDS -
these will go a very long way to confirming what's going on. Lumps of
silicon carbide can really make a mess of a x-section. If you don't have
access to a SEM, you could etch the structure and look for abnormal
/unusual
structures surrounding these features. Etching would also help to refine
the
soft edges on a x-section (provide a more natural edge) and let you see if
you have shrinkage or gas voids (look at shape) filled with grinding
debris.
Contaminated mats on a polishing station could explain the pattern of
occurrence and the feature. As always though, more info about condition
would make diagnosis easier!
Kind regards,
Stewart
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Sent: 11 June 2010 16:21
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Hi Bev!
Got your picture today, and have it posted now:
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/Bevs_Ball.jpg
Almost looks like little pieces of dross. I wonder if something is going
on
with the solder paste? Or leaded reflow profile with a lead-free BGA?
Steve
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Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 9:51 AM
TechNetters,
I am sending a picture to Steve to post. I have labs in three locations.
One of them has seen weird voids in cross-sections of BGAs while the other
two locations have not. For the lab that has seen them, the
cross-sections
were prepared by different people on different days for different
products,
using the same equipment. The voids are not in all balls cross-sectioned
but
may be only in one of two of the balls in a row of multiple solder joints
examined.
Have you seen anything like this? Do you know the root cause?
Vlad,
You know what is going on, so please don't respond.
Bev
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