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Hi Bev - one other telltale sign in the cross-section is the "comet tails" 
swirling off the void pockets which is part of the issue that Stewart 
detailed.

Dave



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Stewart,
I lieu of a Dave Hillman Friday quiz, consider this it.  And you WIN! 
Using an SEM and then carefully examining those pictures and the shape and 
placement of the "voids" we were able to determine that it is exactly as 
you describe.  We are now in the process of hitting our grinding paper 
supplier "up the side of the head" for a crappy lot of product.

Bev
RIM

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stewart McCracken
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:36 AM
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Hi All,

Looks as though sample preparation condition is less than ideal. Sample is 
a little rounded and it appears that the voids might in fact be embedded 
debris from the polishing equipment(?) I'm sure Vladimir would agree - get 
it in the SEM to be sure! Need some better imaging and if possible EDS - 
these will go a very long way to confirming what's going on. Lumps of 
silicon carbide can really make a mess of a x-section. If you don't have 
access to a SEM, you could etch the structure and look for abnormal 
/unusual structures surrounding these features. Etching would also help to 
refine the soft edges on a x-section (provide a more natural edge) and let 
you see if you have shrinkage or gas voids (look at shape) filled with 
grinding debris. 

Contaminated mats on a polishing station could explain the pattern of 
occurrence and the feature. As always though, more info about condition 
would make diagnosis easier!

Kind regards,

Stewart

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-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of stephen gregory
Sent: 11 June 2010 16:21
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Subject: Re: [TN] Weird formation of voids

Hi Bev!
 
Got your picture today, and have it posted now:
 
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/Bevs_Ball.jpg
 
Almost looks like little pieces of dross. I wonder if something is going 
on with the solder paste? Or leaded reflow profile with a lead-free BGA?
 
Steve

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From: Bev Christian <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: [TN] Weird formation of voids
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Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 9:51 AM


TechNetters,
I am sending a picture to Steve to post.  I have labs in three locations.  
One of them has seen weird voids in cross-sections of BGAs while the other 
two locations have not.  For the lab that has seen them, the 
cross-sections were prepared by different people on different days for 
different products, using the same equipment. The voids are not in all 
balls cross-sectioned but may be only in one of two of the balls in a row 
of multiple solder joints examined.

Have you seen anything like this?  Do you know the root cause?

Vlad,
You know what is going on, so please don't respond.

Bev


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