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I hadn't either although, Andrew Ryzynski, one of the lab managers who works for me and has been in the industry for 30 years, has seen it.  I thought it was instructive enough to share. 
Bev
RIM

-----Original Message-----
From: Guy Ramsey [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:53 AM
To: 'TechNet E-Mail Forum'; Bev Christian
Subject: RE: [TN] Weird formation of voids

Wow! Talk about your wild goose chase. 
I hadn't seen that before.

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bev Christian
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:41 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Weird formation of voids

Stewart,
I lieu of a Dave Hillman Friday quiz, consider this it.  And you WIN!  Using
an SEM and then carefully examining those pictures and the shape and
placement of the "voids" we were able to determine that it is exactly as you
describe.  We are now in the process of hitting our grinding paper supplier
"up the side of the head" for a crappy lot of product.

Bev
RIM

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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Stewart McCracken
Sent: Friday, June 11, 2010 11:36 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] Weird formation of voids
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Hi All,

Looks as though sample preparation condition is less than ideal. Sample is a
little rounded and it appears that the voids might in fact be embedded
debris from the polishing equipment(?) I'm sure Vladimir would agree - get
it in the SEM to be sure! Need some better imaging and if possible EDS -
these will go a very long way to confirming what's going on. Lumps of
silicon carbide can really make a mess of a x-section. If you don't have
access to a SEM, you could etch the structure and look for abnormal /unusual
structures surrounding these features. Etching would also help to refine the
soft edges on a x-section (provide a more natural edge) and let you see if
you have shrinkage or gas voids (look at shape) filled with grinding debris.


Contaminated mats on a polishing station could explain the pattern of
occurrence and the feature. As always though, more info about condition
would make diagnosis easier!

Kind regards,

Stewart

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-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of stephen gregory
Sent: 11 June 2010 16:21
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Subject: Re: [TN] Weird formation of voids

Hi Bev!
 
Got your picture today, and have it posted now:
 
http://stevezeva.homestead.com/Bevs_Ball.jpg
 
Almost looks like little pieces of dross. I wonder if something is going on
with the solder paste? Or leaded reflow profile with a lead-free BGA?
 
Steve

--- On Wed, 6/9/10, Bev Christian <[log in to unmask]> wrote:


From: Bev Christian <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: [TN] Weird formation of voids
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, June 9, 2010, 9:51 AM


TechNetters,
I am sending a picture to Steve to post.  I have labs in three locations. 
One of them has seen weird voids in cross-sections of BGAs while the other
two locations have not.  For the lab that has seen them, the cross-sections
were prepared by different people on different days for different products,
using the same equipment. The voids are not in all balls cross-sectioned but
may be only in one of two of the balls in a row of multiple solder joints
examined.

Have you seen anything like this?  Do you know the root cause?

Vlad,
You know what is going on, so please don't respond.

Bev


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