TECHNET Archives

June 2010

TechNet@IPC.ORG

Options: Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
Joyce Koo <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>, Joyce Koo <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Thu, 17 Jun 2010 08:20:05 -0400
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (129 lines)
Your customer is partially correct.  The best storage is flash electrolytic gold on nickel, you can store at low temp for long time.  You can use thicker electrolytic gold of 20 micro inches (if your flash got porosity need thicker to obtain full coverage), and pre tin the surface before use to avoid gold brittle IMC.  The HASL got a thick IMC during process, if it is not clean properly, you can get excessive growth of IMC during storage (much more than Au finish).  My 1,94 cents. 
--------------------------
Sent using BlackBerry


----- Original Message -----
From: Uppina Nagaraj [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2010 07:29 AM
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: [TN] Query on shelf life of PCBs & impact on solderability

Dear All,

I have 3 queries in all.....

1. One of our customer has changed the surface finish from HASL
   to ENIG. Their main reason for this change was that they
   have had a bad experience with storage of HASL finished boards
   (the reason for which is not shared with us). They had encountered
solderability problems on the HASL finished board which they
   had stored for a period of time.

   Their expectation with Gold plated surface is the storage
   of the PCBs can be for a longer period of time as compared to
   HASL finish.

   Initially they had a requirement for 1micron thick electrolytic gold, 
but later on they changed the requirement for an ENIG process with 
gold around 0.05 to 0.10 microns.

   Now my question......

   Is there any guideline on the shelf life of the PCBs (with regard to
solderability) of the following surface finishes....

   a) ENIG
   b) HASL
   c) Immersion Tin
   d) Electrolytic Ni and electrolytic gold with Gold thickness
      of 1.0microns

   Will vacuum packing help to extend the shelf life?

2. One of our customer is doing hand soldering of PCBs with ENIG finish.
   They're inserting a strand of tinned Copper wires from component side
and later on using soldering iron to do the soldering from the solder
side.

   The solder is able to flow up from solder side to component side, but
the solder is unable to complete wet the pad on the component side.

   I've attached the photos of example of the phenomenon. These photos are
without the wire, I've just used bare PCBs to do the soldering to
illustrate the phenomenon.


   Now my question....

   a) Will increasing the volume of the solder help in complete wetting
      of the pads on the component side?
   b) Any other way to get a full coverage on the pads on the component
      side.

3. This question is about the same customer which I've mentioned in
   para 2 above, is doing hand soldering. In one of the stage of
   component assembly, they're (hand) soldering a flexible PCB
   on the ENIG finished rigid PCBs.

   They have a unique practice during this stage of soldering. They've
explained to us that this particular component is very sensitive to
high temperature and hence the soldering iron temperature is set at
210Deg C. They're using Sn60/Pb40 solder for this soldering operation.
After the soldering iron achieves 210Deg C, they're  turning off the
power to the soldering iron and doing the soldering of the flexi PCB
onto the rigi PCBs. We'll not know the actual
   soldering iron temperature at the point of contact.

   They've complained to us that the soldering is poor.

   We know that the melting temperature of solder is around 183deg C. But,

   is there any guideline on the minimum temperature for soldering to get
a good flow of solder and completely wetted solder?

Thanks for your inputs in advance.

Best Regards,
U.Nagaraj
MICROPACK Ltd,
Bangalore, INDIA.






______________________________________________________________________
This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] 
______________________________________________________________________

---------------------------------------------------
Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet
To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)
To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest
Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815
-----------------------------------------------------

---------------------------------------------------------------------
This transmission (including any attachments) may contain confidential information, privileged material (including material protected by the solicitor-client or other applicable privileges), or constitute non-public information. Any use of this information by anyone other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this transmission in error, please immediately reply to the sender and delete this information from your system. Use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this transmission by unintended recipients is not authorized and may be unlawful.

______________________________________________________________________
This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] 
______________________________________________________________________

---------------------------------------------------
Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet
To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)
To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest
Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815
-----------------------------------------------------

ATOM RSS1 RSS2