Hmmm...so you mean intelligence vs. energy? Rockefeller vs Ping Pong? The
assumption is that there is a continuing access to best scientists and
inventors in America. Let's hope on that. But lots of ordinary people need
jobs long today. It's this short perspective I point at. I was without job
once. Will never forget that hell!
Inge
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Sent: den 6 May 2010 14:04
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Subject: Re: [TN] NTC. More important than Lead free ?
> I actually see it slightly different.
>
> Yes, at the first sight it seems cheaper to manufacture in far East, but I
> have seen many reports that add real costs and in the end the profit
> margin is not so spectacularly great. For me, it is not the enterprises
> deciding to manufacture there, but the big financial interests. The huge
> American and European fortunes want a big slice of what is happening in
> the far East, just to keep the people there from getting as rich, or
> richer, than them and start controlling the international cash flow. And
> this is why they came up with this "cheap labor" story, in order to have
> us invest, so that they use more money power in order to try and control
> the situation.
>
> Slippery ground, ain't it? Probably I should stick to technical data.
>
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> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Werner Engelmaier [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Envoyé : May-05-10 4:35 PM
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> Objet : Re: [TN] NTC. More important than Lead free ?
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> Hi Inge,
> Things always go in cycles.
> In the 50's "MADE IN JAPAN"=garbage;
> in the 60/70's "MADE IN JAPAN"=quality and innovation, but cheaper with
> cheap labor;
> In the 90's-today "MADE IN JAPAN"=so-so with problems, not cheaper because
> labor no longer cheaper.
> I fully expect that cycle to repeat with China/Far East, and somewhat
> later with India.
> In the 70's-00's "MADE IN CHINA"=garbage, but very cheap with cheap labor;
> in the 10's "MADE IN CHINA "=some quality and some innovation, still
> cheaper with cheap labor (but it is getting more expensive);
> Not likely with South America and Africa, but who knows.
> Werner
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 4:20 pm
> Subject: [TN] NTC. More important than Lead free ?
>
>
> I happened to see an article about worker payment in the Far East. A
> typical chinese industry operator has 3.15 $ per hour. No wonder many
> industrialists place their orders there or invest in chinese business. How
> will/can we defend our positions? With cheaper operators? Impossible.
> Faster assembly, more cost effective machines? If we succeed (after a lot
> of investments) to do that, it will take just one year and the easterners
> will have copies (cheaper). If we press our best genii to invent a stream
> of new HiTech things to be produced for making money? How willing are the
> investors to rocket these projects? While the bureaucrats send papers to
> each other, the enormous mass of doctors and engineers that flood from
> chinese schools will catch up. Subventions from the governments? Not a
> popular way among most tax payers. etc etc. We had a discussion over a
> cup of tea (yes, very british) and my daughter's husband, who use to be a
> sharp guy, had only one solution: same kind of economy as have China.
>
> Well, global economy is nothing for me, but it struck me, why not ask the
> fellows on TN. So, that is what I'm asking on a amateur basis: what will
> americans do to keep electronic industry jobs ? I've googled and found
> lots, lots of articles, but most about details. I look for something that
> can be summerised in a few words.
>
> Actually, why bother? Americans will always be on
> top......hmmmm......z.zzzzzzzz
>
> Inge
>
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