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I actually see it slightly different.

Yes, at the first sight it seems cheaper to manufacture in far East, but I have seen many reports that add real costs and in the end the profit margin is not so spectacularly great. For me, it is not the enterprises deciding to manufacture there, but the big financial interests. The huge American and European fortunes want a big slice of what is happening in the far East, just to keep the people there from getting as rich, or richer, than them and start controlling the international cash flow. And this is why they came up with this "cheap labor" story, in order to have us invest, so that they use more money power in order to try and control the situation.

Slippery ground, ain't it? Probably I should stick to technical data.

Ioan Tempea, ing.
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-----Message d'origine-----
De : Werner Engelmaier [mailto:[log in to unmask]] 
Envoyé : May-05-10 4:35 PM
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Objet : Re: [TN] NTC. More important than Lead free ?

 Hi Inge,
Things always go in cycles.
In the 50's "MADE IN JAPAN"=garbage;
in the 60/70's "MADE IN JAPAN"=quality and innovation, but cheaper with cheap labor;
In the 90's-today "MADE IN JAPAN"=so-so with problems, not cheaper because labor no longer cheaper.
I fully expect that cycle to repeat with China/Far East, and somewhat later with India.
In the 70's-00's "MADE IN CHINA"=garbage, but very cheap with cheap labor;
in the 10's "MADE IN CHINA "=some quality and some innovation, still cheaper with cheap labor (but it is getting more expensive);
Not likely with South America and Africa, but who knows.
Werner

 


 

 

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From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Wed, May 5, 2010 4:20 pm
Subject: [TN] NTC. More important than Lead free ?


 I happened to see an article about worker payment in the Far East. A typical chinese industry operator has 3.15 $ per hour.  No wonder many industrialists place their orders there or invest in chinese business. How will/can we defend our positions? With cheaper operators? Impossible. Faster assembly, more cost effective machines? If we succeed (after a lot of investments) to do that, it will take just one year and the easterners will have copies (cheaper). If we press our best genii to invent a stream of new HiTech things to be produced for making money?  How willing are the investors to rocket these projects? While the bureaucrats send papers to each other, the enormous mass of doctors and engineers that flood from chinese schools will catch up. Subventions from  the governments? Not a popular way among most tax payers. etc etc.  We had a discussion over a cup of tea (yes, very british) and my daughter's husband, who use to be a sharp guy, had only one solution: same kind of economy as have China. 
 
Well, global economy is nothing for me, but it struck me, why not ask the fellows on TN. So, that is what I'm asking  on a amateur basis: what will americans do to keep electronic industry jobs ?  I've googled and found lots, lots of articles, but most about details. I look for something that can be summerised in a few words. 
 
Actually, why bother? Americans will always be on top......hmmmm......z.zzzzzzzz 
 
Inge 
 

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