GM earns money for the first time after three years with minus....isn't that
great
FORD has built world's most advanced car factory......isn't that too great.
ATA2010 is world's leading trade show.....what will the US show ? Must be
very interesting.
As said Ioan : Quality and Capability will win in the length
Inge
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From: "Inge" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: den 11 May 2010 22:15
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [TN] Quality & Capability
> Here is a example on a PWB that fufills Bev's sight on futuristic design
> and probably also quality and capability: one of the smallest PWBs in the
> world, a real hitech one for Bluetooth
> . Mass produced AND cheap AND quality. There is one problem for most of
> us : not easy to compete with a company who got a special Bluetooth group
> consisting of 2,000 members!!
>
> I am just curious about the manufacturing cost for such a object.
>
> http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol30/pdf/bluet.pdf
>
> Inge
>
> PS wonder if it is Sony in the US
>
>
>> Thanks anyway for debating, Werner. I use to find a golden grain here and
>> silver seed there speaking with you all. Bev's 0105s, 0.3 mm pitch,
>> embedded components etc were such findings.
>>
>> Inge
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Werner Engelmaier" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: den 9 May 2010 20:09
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: [TN] Earl Moon...
>>
>>> Inge,
>>> You cannot compete on volume, so it has to be quality and capability.
>>> Werner
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 2:02 pm
>>> Subject: Re: [TN] Earl Moon...
>>>
>>>
>>> Bev,
>>> I did not swing a tomahawk! Just expressed my sadness over this old man.
>>> What you say is probably right, because you have better insight. Can't
>>> help I felt upset when I happened to get a hit on SMT searching for very
>>> fine pitch boards, which I'm very interested in. I didn't look back to
>>> see what the SMTA conversation was about, maybe Earl had gone little too
>>> far. Moreover, Earl had nothing but good things to say about you, nor
>>> have I. That's why I said 'we' . Still, I felt so sorry when I heard
>>> about Earl's loneliness and broken economy.....OK, maybe his choice, as
>>> you say. Now, let's return to technical topics....e.g. Ibiden, which I
>>> just read about. As far as I could see, they do not have any superior
>>> technology or secrets that make them 'world's largest PWB manufacturer,
>>> as they say themselves. They are just very big. And they go on being
>>> bigger, building a new superplant for some 1,000 workers. We are small
>>> in comparison, and we have a down just now as many others, that' s why I
>>> do some surveying. My boss asked me if I had any good ideas for our PWB
>>> section.
>>>
>>> Inge
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Bev Christian" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: den 9 May 2010 19:26
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: [TN] Earl Moon...
>>>
>>>> No, Inge. I fundamentally disagree with what you have just said. No
>>>> one > chased him out - not us, not Jack Crawford, not the IPC. Earl
>>>> made a > CHOICE. Fortunately we have the freedom in the respective
>>>> countries of > most TechNetters to do that, but with choice comes
>>>> CONSEQUENCES. If > someone wants to be a cowboy (and there is no
>>>> denying that Earl wasn't - > but he was a very good one though :) )
>>>> things logically fall from that. > Earl knew that and I think you do
>>>> too. So please don't lay something at my > doorstep I don't own.
>>>>
>>>> Your friend (even if we continue to disagree on this)
>>>> Bev
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Sun May 09 12:27:28 2010
>>>> Subject: Re: [TN] Earl Moon...
>>>>
>>>> Steven.
>>>>
>>>> I feel a little sad still. We chased Earl out from this forum.
>>>> Obviously, > he
>>>> tried to find a new "home" with this result :
>>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Date: July 13, 2006 08:12 PM
>>>> Author: pr
>>>> Subject: Earl Moon
>>>> Earl if you dont have anyting of value to add to the forum please say
>>>> your
>>>> final farewell and never returrn
>>>>
>>>> (http://www.smtnet.com/Forums/index.cfm?CFApp=1&Message_ID=42721)
>>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>>
>>>> I hope we will never ever treat someone in this forum like that, with
>>>> exception for evilness and sabotage or other destructive behaviour.
>>>>
>>>> Inge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>> From: "Steven Creswick" <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: den 9 May 2010 16:09
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Subject: Re: [TN] Earl Moon...
>>>>
>>>>> All,
>>>>>
>>>>> None of us wears the crown of perfection!
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe that Earl, having been an active and valuable participant in
>>>>> >> the
>>>>> IPC forums for a number of years, deserves to have his picture
>>>>> memorialized
>>>>> on Steve's page.
>>>>>
>>>>> Bottom line is that it IS Steve's page [not the IPC's], and he can do
>>>>> as
>>>>> he
>>>>> pleases ....
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> We just have to come up with a picture...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Steve Creswick
>>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevencreswick
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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