As I've been involved in many q about leakage (we've designed several PWBs
with many kV WV) I wonder if not there is a close relation between CAF and
leakage current?
E.g. NPL MATC(A)155 which reports CAF as and effect of:
- via-to-via gap
- layout
- via alignment to glass weave
- inner layer pads and polarity
- board surface finish
-drill feed speed
- reflow conditions
- board manufacturing location
- glass transition temp
- glass reinforcement
- laminate chemistry
As I can see it, leakage current is not isolated from CAF.
just a thought
Inge
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From: "Inge" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: den 4 May 2010 00:13
To: "Inge" <[log in to unmask]>; <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [TN] Question for High Voltage guru's
>
> Some guys have contacted me offline to get more about the statement below.
> It's a factor following Arrhenius's law. I could not promptly find a
> reference specifically for leakage,
> but the pasted lines that follow are in principal same for leakage current
> (and some more ). Agree, very little is written
> about this in our PWB correspondence, but I'm sure one can find it
> somewhere in TN's archive.
> Also, it may also be in Earl Moon's POD Handbook:
> http://www.dynamixtechnology.com/publications.htm. I got a copy directly
> from Earl, but I cannot find it for the moment . His handbook is something
> all should have working with electronics.
>
> Inge
>
> One cause of temperature related failures of boards or components relates
> to change or degradation at the molecular level. This type of failure is
> best modeled as a first order kinetic reaction, typically described as an
> Arrhenius Equation, which is proportional to the inverse log of the
> temperature. A simplified Arrhenius equation and a resulting reliability
> plot against operating temperature are displayed in FIGURE 2. Since
> failure rates, often described as a mean-time-to-failure (MTTF), increase
> exponentially with temperature, a 10° C-increase in temperature can double
> the failure rate. In an operating device where reliability is critical to
> success, even 1° C can matter. The key to improving reliability is to
> reduce device temperature by increasing the rate at which heat is removed
> from the device and from the working area of the PCB immediately adjacent
> to the device. Understanding heat transfer then becomes the next step.
>
>
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> From: "Inge" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: den 3 May 2010 20:34
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [TN] Question for High Voltage guru's
>
>> Add this : leakage currents double for each 10 Centigrades of operating
>> temperature
>>
>> Inge
>>
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>> From: "Paul Edwards" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: den 3 May 2010 20:01
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: [TN] Question for High Voltage guru's
>>
>>> Colin,
>>>
>>> How close is the nearest ground in your PCB?
>>>
>>> How is the HV routed to the exposed metal pad that I assume is
>>> Au-plated?
>>>
>>> Have built RoHS PCAs with FR-4 type PCB material at +3kv operating and
>>> found that the leakage path between the HV via and the GND run along the
>>> glass reinforcing bundles until they plate a circuit and short out the
>>> HV supply, unless the open air load is a lower resistance path...
>>>
>>> Rotate the weave, offset the via grids, bake the laminates and seal the
>>> PCB...
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> Paul Edwards
>>> Surface Art Engineering
>>>
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>>> Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:00 AM
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>>> Subject: [TN] Question for High Voltage guru's
>>>
>>> Ladies and Gentlemen of Technet-land,
>>>
>>> Let's consider an application based on FR4, originally manufactured on
>>> ceramic base materials:
>>>
>>> It generates a plasma field from the surrounding air, neutralizing any
>>> airborne particals and nasties!
>>>
>>> It operates at around 3KV, for a period of time then resets.
>>>
>>> Given passivation layers of FR4 are varied dependant on laminate
>>> suppliers supply-chain at the time of lamination, then what influence
>>> will this change have? i.e. Would I expect to see any issues with
>>> different copper suppliers and passivation types?
>>>
>>> note: Qualification testing is under load 20% of the time at 3KV under
>>> 85/85 damp heat conditions for 1000 hours. It has been qualified on
>>> original FR-4 samples, but now I'm worried about this potential change
>>> from my laminate supplier.
>>>
>>> looking forward as usual to comments and advice
>>>
>>> Colin
>>>
>>>
>>>
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