Here is a example on a PWB that fufills Bev's sight on futuristic design and
probably also quality and capability: one of the smallest PWBs in the world,
a real hitech one for Bluetooth
. Mass produced AND cheap AND quality. There is one problem for most of us
: not easy to compete with a company who got a special Bluetooth group
consisting of 2,000 members!!
I am just curious about the manufacturing cost for such a object.
http://www.sony.net/Products/SC-HP/cx_news/vol30/pdf/bluet.pdf
Inge
PS wonder if it is Sony in the US
> Thanks anyway for debating, Werner. I use to find a golden grain here and
> silver seed there speaking with you all. Bev's 0105s, 0.3 mm pitch,
> embedded components etc were such findings.
>
> Inge
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "Werner Engelmaier" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: den 9 May 2010 20:09
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [TN] Earl Moon...
>
>> Inge,
>> You cannot compete on volume, so it has to be quality and capability.
>> Werner
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Sun, May 9, 2010 2:02 pm
>> Subject: Re: [TN] Earl Moon...
>>
>>
>> Bev,
>> I did not swing a tomahawk! Just expressed my sadness over this old man.
>> What you say is probably right, because you have better insight. Can't
>> help I felt upset when I happened to get a hit on SMT searching for very
>> fine pitch boards, which I'm very interested in. I didn't look back to
>> see what the SMTA conversation was about, maybe Earl had gone little too
>> far. Moreover, Earl had nothing but good things to say about you, nor
>> have I. That's why I said 'we' . Still, I felt so sorry when I heard
>> about Earl's loneliness and broken economy.....OK, maybe his choice, as
>> you say. Now, let's return to technical topics....e.g. Ibiden, which I
>> just read about. As far as I could see, they do not have any superior
>> technology or secrets that make them 'world's largest PWB manufacturer,
>> as they say themselves. They are just very big. And they go on being
>> bigger, building a new superplant for some 1,000 workers. We are small
>> in comparison, and we have a down just now as many others, that' s why I
>> do some surveying. My boss asked me if I had any good ideas for our PWB
>> section.
>>
>> Inge
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------
>> From: "Bev Christian" <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: den 9 May 2010 19:26
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: Re: [TN] Earl Moon...
>>
>>> No, Inge. I fundamentally disagree with what you have just said. No one
>>> > chased him out - not us, not Jack Crawford, not the IPC. Earl made a >
>>> CHOICE. Fortunately we have the freedom in the respective countries of >
>>> most TechNetters to do that, but with choice comes CONSEQUENCES. If >
>>> someone wants to be a cowboy (and there is no denying that Earl wasn't -
>>> > but he was a very good one though :) ) things logically fall from
>>> that. > Earl knew that and I think you do too. So please don't lay
>>> something at my > doorstep I don't own.
>>>
>>> Your friend (even if we continue to disagree on this)
>>> Bev
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: TechNet <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: Sun May 09 12:27:28 2010
>>> Subject: Re: [TN] Earl Moon...
>>>
>>> Steven.
>>>
>>> I feel a little sad still. We chased Earl out from this forum.
>>> Obviously, > he
>>> tried to find a new "home" with this result :
>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Date: July 13, 2006 08:12 PM
>>> Author: pr
>>> Subject: Earl Moon
>>> Earl if you dont have anyting of value to add to the forum please say
>>> your
>>> final farewell and never returrn
>>>
>>> (http://www.smtnet.com/Forums/index.cfm?CFApp=1&Message_ID=42721)
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> I hope we will never ever treat someone in this forum like that, with
>>> exception for evilness and sabotage or other destructive behaviour.
>>>
>>> Inge
>>>
>>>
>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>> From: "Steven Creswick" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Sent: den 9 May 2010 16:09
>>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: [TN] Earl Moon...
>>>
>>>> All,
>>>>
>>>> None of us wears the crown of perfection!
>>>>
>>>> I believe that Earl, having been an active and valuable participant in
>>>> >> the
>>>> IPC forums for a number of years, deserves to have his picture
>>>> memorialized
>>>> on Steve's page.
>>>>
>>>> Bottom line is that it IS Steve's page [not the IPC's], and he can do
>>>> as
>>>> he
>>>> pleases ....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We just have to come up with a picture...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Steve Creswick
>>>> http://www.linkedin.com/in/stevencreswick
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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