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Correct me if I am wrong.  Select paste and any rework repair material and process is part of design.  The designer select all the devices in platform or generation format and draft BOM with termination finishing (with possible alternatives), and looked the key components thermal restriction requirement, and select required paste activity and possible rework times, temp. Solder wire or method.  (Also may decide it just better to throw away).  It also be the part of master plan for testing on what.% fault you want to repair and which field return forecast as a write offs.  The question should be post to design group, not here.  
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----- Original Message -----
From: Robert Kondner [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 09:26 AM
To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [TN] Flux-Cored Wire Solder: Halide / Halide-Free

Yes But,

 If you buy everything from one manufacturer and there is a problem do you
really expect them to say:

  "Yes, It is my problems, I will fix it." ?

 If you think that would you like to buy a big bridge in New York City?  :-)

  If you can get what you need at a reasonable price from a single supplier
go for it. But various real world issues seldom make that possible.

Bob Kondner



-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Brian Ellis
Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 9:05 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] Flux-Cored Wire Solder: Halide / Halide-Free

Not only that, but it is inevitable that manufacturer X will blame the 
product of manufacturer Y, should you ever run into any trouble.

Brian

Karen Tellefsen wrote:
> Do solder manufacturers actually develop products to be used together by
> matching chemistries?
> 
> Sometimes.
> 
> Should one attempt to utilize paste, wire, and liquid flux all from a
> single supplier, or is there no value there, in that an ORH0 is an ORH0 is
> an ORH0?
> 
> The advantage using one vendors chemistries is that the vendor may have
> tested the materials together and can provide compatability/reliability
> data.   If you use chemistries from different vendors, you'll have to do
> any compatability testing yourself.
> 
> Karen Tellefsen - Electrical Testing
> [log in to unmask]
> 908-791-3069
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> 
> 
>

>              "Glidden, Kevin"

>              <Kevin.Glidden@as

>              tronics.com>                                               To

>                                        TechNet E-Mail Forum

>              04/20/2010 06:56          <[log in to unmask]>, Karen Tellefsen

>              AM                        <[log in to unmask]>

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>                                        RE: [TN] Flux-Cored Wire Solder:

>                                        Halide / Halide-Free

>

>

>

>

>

>

> 
> 
> 
> 
> Karen and Guy,
> 
> Thanks for the responses.  I like the looks of the Aqualine...
> 
> But, more questions comes to mind.....
> 
> Do solder manufacturers actually develop products to be used together by
> matching chemistries?
> 
> Should one attempt to utilize paste, wire, and liquid flux all from a
> single supplier, or is there no value there, in that an ORH0 is an ORH0 is
> an ORH0?
> 
> For example, in some wire solder data sheets you will see statements that
> it uses the same flux chemistry as either a paste or a liquid flux from
the
> same manufacturer.  But on the other hand, I have seen manufacturers state
> that the compatible flux with a given paste in product X, but then the
> datasheet for product X states it was developed with the same chemistry as
> a completely different paste.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kevin Glidden
> Manufacturing Engineer
> Astronics Luminescent Systems Inc.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karen Tellefsen [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 4:59 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] Flux-Cored Wire Solder: Halide / Halide-Free
> 
> Aqualine 6000 is halide-free, ORH0.  Must be washed, washable in hot DI
> water.
> 
> Karen Tellefsen - Electrical Testing
> [log in to unmask]
> 908-791-3069
> 
> 
> 
> 
>              "Guy M. Ramsey"
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>              04/19/2010 02:42          Re: [TN] Flux-Cored Wire Solder:
>              PM                        Halide / Halide-Free
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> 
>              Please respond to
>               TechNet E-Mail
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> Amtech makes a wire core solder with Halide free watersoluble flux. You
> should
> clean it but it cleans fairly easily. If you are looking to change your
> cleaning
> process, I recommend you look at it. We clean it with a spot steam
cleaner.
> 
> 
> If you are staying with alcohol you cannot use it.
> 
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