No, I'm free for the moment. Building a roof terrace and replacing the
gravel garage entrance with 15 tons of stone.
Inge
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From: "Werner Engelmaier" <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: den 15 April 2010 16:41
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: [TN] TN history, dimly
> Hi Inge,
> Nothing I am aware of that is competitive in performance, price,
> versatility.
> Will you be at the IPC Reliability Conference in Frankfurt?
> Werner
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
> To: Werner Engelmaier <[log in to unmask]>; [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thu, Apr 15, 2010 5:44 pm
> Subject: Re: [TN] TN history, dimly
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> Hi Werner,
> No hieroglyphs in your message. Clear as a glass of Budweisser (not
> drinkable though). Technicians and commercialists need each other and
> should not stand against each other.
> Old-timer Louis said that there was more of PCB manufacturing discussions
> earlier. The reason why I'm so fond of TN is not only the amazing knowhow
> about PCB stuff, but also the width. TN is like a living encyclopedia,
> any technology can be discussed. Other organisation use to be less
> 'universal' .
>
> Now I will put a very PCB-specific question to you: is there any
> (successful) material in sight for replacing epoxy boards. I have the
> hardening environments restrictions in mind. Pertinax and similar can not
> supersede epoxy, but there may be other aspirants coming. Vectran seemed
> to be a candidate, but it's silent today.
>
> Inge
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> From: "Werner Engelmaier" <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: den 15 April 2010 11:53
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: [TN] TN history, dimly
>
>> Hi Inge,
>> The last paragraph is a very astute observation.
>> I am afraid this is part of the changes going on within the IPC—none for
>> > the better. They have gotten rid of a lot of staff with long histories
>> and > replaced them with bean counter-types. Some of it is driven by the
>> > economic times and financial losses at the main conferences over the
>> last > 2 years, but another aspect by some apparent power struggle within
>> the IPC > between the technical and the commercial communities within the
>> IPC, with > the commercial side apparently winning.
>> These changes have P.O.'ed a large number of long-term contributors, >
>> including most of the still-active Hall of Famers.
>> Werner
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Thu, Apr 15, 2010 2:07 pm
>> Subject: Re: [TN] TN history, dimly
>>
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>> I missed some names, as Louis Hart pointed out. I have no right to do >
>> whatever, just came with a proposal. So the corrected list is below, >
>> with some further stars :
>>
>>>Louis Hart
>>>Earl Moon
>>>Dave Hoover
>>>Don Vischulis
>>>Gabriel Bogdan
>>>Paul Klasek
>>>Bill Kasprzak
>>>Bob Metcalf
>>>Brian Ellis
>>>Bev Christian
>>> Mike Fenner
>>> Jim Marsico
>>> John Crawford
>>> Guenter Grossman
>>> Michael Barmuta
>>> John Burke
>>> Karen Tellefsen
>>> David Hillman
>>> Bob Willis
>>> Dwight Mattix
>>> Joseph Fjelstad
>>> Greg Bartlett
>>> Jack Olson
>>> Chris Hunt
>>> Rick Vernon
>>> Charles Barker
>>> David Bergman
>>> Jim Reed
>>> Mike Buetow
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>> Inge
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>> PS. It seems to me as John Crawford ( nowadays rather silent, but very >
>> active the first years) is one of the real creators of TN. Is that so, >
>> then I hope he will be the leader of the celebration group. Why not make
>> > a nice photo application with these guys, and with a suitable word, and
>> > let Steve G do something creative for his gallery? Does not take much
>> time > to do. TN has lost over 200 members the last years, a
>> presentation of > our idols may perhaps renew the interest.
>>
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