TECHNET Archives

April 2010

TechNet@IPC.ORG

Options: Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Message: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]
Author: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
Subject:
From:
Werner Engelmaier <[log in to unmask]>
Reply To:
TechNet E-Mail Forum <[log in to unmask]>, Werner Engelmaier <[log in to unmask]>
Date:
Thu, 15 Apr 2010 19:41:58 -0400
Content-Type:
text/plain
Parts/Attachments:
text/plain (136 lines)
 Hi Inge,
Nothing I am aware of that is competitive in performance, price, versatility.
Will you be at the IPC Reliability Conference in Frankfurt?
Werner

 


 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Inge <[log in to unmask]>
To: Werner Engelmaier <[log in to unmask]>; [log in to unmask]
Sent: Thu, Apr 15, 2010 5:44 pm
Subject: Re: [TN] TN history, dimly


Hi Werner, 
No hieroglyphs in your message.  Clear as a glass of Budweisser (not drinkable though). Technicians and commercialists need each other and should not stand against each other. 
Old-timer Louis said that there was more of PCB manufacturing discussions earlier.  The reason why I'm so fond of TN is not only the amazing knowhow about PCB stuff, but also the width.  TN is like a living encyclopedia, any technology can be discussed.  Other organisation use to be less 'universal' . 
 
Now I will put a very PCB-specific question to you: is there any (successful) material in sight for replacing epoxy boards. I have the hardening environments restrictions in mind. Pertinax and similar can not supersede epoxy, but there may be other aspirants coming. Vectran seemed to be a candidate, but it's silent today. 
 
Inge 
 
-------------------------------------------------- 
From: "Werner Engelmaier" <[log in to unmask]> 
Sent: den 15 April 2010 11:53 
To: <[log in to unmask]> 
Subject: Re: [TN] TN history, dimly 
 
> Hi Inge, 
> The last paragraph is a very astute observation. 
> I am afraid this is part of the changes going on within the IPC—none for > the better. They have gotten rid of a lot of staff with long histories and > replaced them with bean counter-types. Some of it is driven by the > economic times and financial losses at the main conferences over the last > 2 years, but another aspect by some apparent power struggle within the IPC > between the technical and the commercial communities within the IPC, with > the commercial side apparently winning. 
> These changes have P.O.'ed a large number of long-term contributors, > including most of the still-active Hall of Famers. 
> Werner 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: Inge <[log in to unmask]> 
> To: [log in to unmask] 
> Sent: Thu, Apr 15, 2010 2:07 pm 
> Subject: Re: [TN] TN history, dimly 
> 
> 
> I missed some names, as Louis Hart pointed out.   I have no right to do > whatever, just came with a proposal.  So the corrected list is below, > with some further stars : 
> 
>>Louis Hart 
>>Earl Moon 
>>Dave Hoover 
>>Don Vischulis 
>>Gabriel Bogdan 
>>Paul Klasek 
>>Bill Kasprzak 
>>Bob Metcalf 
>>Brian Ellis 
>>Bev Christian 
>> Mike Fenner 
>> Jim Marsico 
>> John Crawford 
>> Guenter Grossman 
>> Michael Barmuta 
>> John Burke 
>> Karen Tellefsen 
>> David Hillman 
>> Bob Willis 
>> Dwight Mattix 
>> Joseph Fjelstad 
>> Greg Bartlett 
>> Jack Olson 
>> Chris Hunt 
>> Rick Vernon 
>> Charles Barker 
>> David Bergman 
>> Jim Reed 
>> Mike Buetow 
> 
> 
> Inge 
> 
> PS. It seems  to me as John Crawford ( nowadays rather silent, but very > active the first years) is one of the real creators of TN. Is that so, > then I hope he will be the leader of the celebration group.  Why not make > a nice photo application with these guys, and with a suitable word, and > let Steve G do something creative for his gallery? Does not take much time > to do.  TN has lost over 200 members the last years,  a presentation of > our idols may perhaps renew the interest. 
> 
>> 
> ______________________________________________________________________ 
> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 
> For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] > ______________________________________________________________________ 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------- > Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 
> To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in 
> the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet 
> To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) 
> To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest 
> Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives 
> Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 > for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or > 847-615-7100 ext.2815 
> ----------------------------------------------------- > 
> 
> 
> ______________________________________________________________________ 
> This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System. 
> For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] 
> ______________________________________________________________________ 
> 
> --------------------------------------------------- 
> Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0 
> To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in 
> the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet 
> To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL) 
> To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to > [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest 
> Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives 
> Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 > for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or > 847-615-7100 ext.2815 
> -----------------------------------------------------  
 

______________________________________________________________________
This email has been scanned by the MessageLabs Email Security System.
For more information please contact helpdesk at x2960 or [log in to unmask] 
______________________________________________________________________

---------------------------------------------------
Technet Mail List provided as a service by IPC using LISTSERV 15.0
To unsubscribe, send a message to [log in to unmask] with following text in
the BODY (NOT the subject field): SIGNOFF Technet
To temporarily halt or (re-start) delivery of Technet send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet NOMAIL or (MAIL)
To receive ONE mailing per day of all the posts: send e-mail to [log in to unmask]: SET Technet Digest
Search the archives of previous posts at: http://listserv.ipc.org/archives
Please visit IPC web site http://www.ipc.org/contentpage.asp?Pageid=4.3.16 for additional information, or contact Keach Sasamori at [log in to unmask] or 847-615-7100 ext.2815
-----------------------------------------------------

ATOM RSS1 RSS2