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It's even worse in Japan where Toyota filed suit against a safety
advocate for "Blackmail," and won!

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/06/business/global/06toyota.html?ref=auto
mobiles 


Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Bob Landman
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 2:04 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [TN] More on Toyota

Clearly they are not handing out brains based on the following story
about their black boxes.

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/provider/providerarticle.aspx?feed=AP&d
ate=20100304&id=11201487

Bob Landman
H&L Instruments, LLC

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On Mar 5, 2010, at 11:55 AM, Gregg Owens <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Is Toyota's PR firm handing out guns lately? Everything they do in 
> recent days they seem to be shooting themselves in the foot. They are 
> running out of feet. Someone give them gun safety classes. It's 
> painful to watch a company so respected for so long fall on their face

> so hard. I remember the days when I was introduced to lean mfg using 
> the Toyota Production System. Shows what happens when you take your 
> eye off the proverbial ball.
>
> Gregg Owens
> Technical Writer - Avionics
> Space Exploration Technologies Corporation
> (310) 363-6533
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Ken Bloomquist
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:14 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] More on Toyota
>
> One more quick Toyota story, it's Friday.
>
> I have a 1999 Toyota Sienna and two months out of warranty the power 
> sliding door quit working. I took it to the shop and after telling me 
> it was going to cost $1,200 to replace the "computer" (read circuit 
> board) I called Toyota and asked them if they would honor the warranty

> since this was a common problem with other Toyota's. They asked me if 
> I owned or ever owned any other Toyota's. I told them "no this is my 
> first" to which they replied, "We'd fix it but since you are not a 
> 'loyal' Toyota customer we won't".
> How's that for great customer service and image building?
>
> This is the last Toyota I'll ever own because I REALLY am not a "loyal

> customer" or at least I'm not now.
>
> Happy Friday ;-)
>
> KennyB
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Croslin, Robert [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:09 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [TN] More on Toyota
>
> In early 2006, we lemon-lawed our 2005 ES330 Lexus for Unintended 
> Acceleration.  Toyota put us through hell.  After going through the 
> arbitration process in which they denied the claim, I began the actual

> LL process with the state of Florida.  Within hours, Toyota was in 
> touch with us and we settled on replacement with a 2007 ES350, so the 
> actual
> LL process was never completed.   At the handover, they then told me  
> the
> car would be quarantined , sent to Jacksonville and disassembled to 
> find the problem.  "You guys just spent months denying a problem and 
> now you're going to tear the car apart looking for it?"  All my 
> filings, including one with the NHSTA who never responded, were for 
> Unintended Acceleration due to Sensor and ECM Malfunction" and 
> documented with cause and effect schematics.
>
> To date, the replacement ES350 has been the best car we've ever owned 
> and they were so aggressive in stopping the LL process with the state,

> that we actually came out way, way ahead financially on the 
> transaction.
> Here's some other links, including the letter from the house 
> subcommittee, a schematic on their throttle, and a related story on 
> how Ford used similar techniques with the Pinto years ago.  Enjoy
>
> Bob Croslin
> The Nielsen Company
>
> House Subcommittee Letter
> http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20100222/lentz_letter_2010_2
> _2
> 2.pdf
>
> Bnet link
> http://blogs.bnet.com/business-news/?p=175&tag=nl.e713
>
> Pinto Study
> http://motherjones.com/politics/1977/09/pinto-madness?page=1
>
>
>
>
>
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