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In early 2006, we lemon-lawed our 2005 ES330 Lexus for Unintended
Acceleration.  Toyota put us through hell.  After going through the
arbitration process in which they denied the claim, I began the actual
LL process with the state of Florida.  Within hours, Toyota was in touch
with us and we settled on replacement with a 2007 ES350, so the actual
LL process was never completed.   At the handover, they then told me the
car would be quarantined , sent to Jacksonville and disassembled to find
the problem.  "You guys just spent months denying a problem and now
you're going to tear the car apart looking for it?"  All my filings,
including one with the NHSTA who never responded, were for Unintended
Acceleration due to Sensor and ECM Malfunction" and documented with
cause and effect schematics.  

To date, the replacement ES350 has been the best car we've ever owned
and they were so aggressive in stopping the LL process with the state,
that we actually came out way, way ahead financially on the transaction.
Here's some other links, including the letter from the house
subcommittee, a schematic on their throttle, and a related story on how
Ford used similar techniques with the Pinto years ago.  Enjoy

Bob Croslin
The Nielsen Company

House Subcommittee Letter 
http://energycommerce.house.gov/Press_111/20100222/lentz_letter_2010_2_2
2.pdf 

Bnet link 
http://blogs.bnet.com/business-news/?p=175&tag=nl.e713 

Pinto Study 
http://motherjones.com/politics/1977/09/pinto-madness?page=1 


-----Original Message-----
From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mike Buetow
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 10:15 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: [TN] More on Toyota

Toyota claims Prof. Gilbert's lab study on the sudden unintended
acceleration isn't representative of real world situations. However -
and this is important - Toyota makes no mention (at least in this
report) about Gilbert's more important claim: that Toyota's on-board
computers contain no defect code for the problem, which speaks to the
reason the company's diagnosis is (according to several experts)
incorrect. 

 

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-03-04/toyota-rebuts-professor-s-st
udy-suggesting-flaws-in-electronics.html

 

 

Mike Buetow

Circuits Assembly

w/m 617-327-4702

 

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