Hi Bob & Graham,
Be very careful using these—this is a pin grid array with butt-joints in disguise.
It will work if you have not much of a thermal expansion mismatch between component and PCB, but if you do you will get very early solder joint failures.
Werner
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From: Bob Landman <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tue, Mar 23, 2010 2:42 pm
Subject: Re: [TN] TI/Emerson SMT Board Mounted Power
Graham,
While I have not tried this clever device, it seems like a good way to solve the
problem.
See http://www.autosplice.com/solderball-pins/
"Eliminates Coplanarity Concerns When Soldering Parallel PC Boards
Packaged in Tape Reel for use with standard feeders for automated placement. The
product contains a Solderball that maintains its shape during multiple solder
reflow processes. The PC board or device can then easily be soldered to pads on
another parallel PC board. The Solderball pins accommodate up to .020" (0.5mm)
coplanarity variation with high current reliability."
Bob Landman
H&L Instruments, LLC
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From: TechNet [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Graham Collins
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 8:45 AM
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Subject: Re: [TN] TI/Emerson SMT Board Mounted Power
Hi Russell
Is it skewed before it goes into the reflow oven? If yes, then a placement
issue. If it looks OK before reflow oven and is skewed after the reflow oven
then obviously is moving in there - which points to a pad size problem.
If their placement is good and it is skewing in the oven, one trick we have used
in the past is to dispense a glue dot under the component body
- it will hold the alignment during reflow. We have used this method when pad
layout is not quite right and the alignment is critical to meet IPC-A-610
requirements (e.g. for heel fillet). They would need to have glue dispense
capability though.
regards,
- Graham
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(Russell)
Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 4:57 PM
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Subject: [TN] TI/Emerson SMT Board Mounted Power
Hello Technetters,
I have a problem I hope someone out there has a solution for.
I have on a PCA that uses a Texas Instrument/(Emerson Power/Artesyn) (dual
sourced but part of the POLA) SMT board mounted power converter.
The MPN is PTH03050WAS. It is actually combination PTH and SMT. The device has
40 mil diameter pins for PTH and to make it SMT they simply add a donut (solder
dam) on the pin and round the edges and call it a solder ball. I think the
problem my EMS is having is really with pick-n-place because the pick-up point
(Actually the top of a
transformer) is off-center, fairly small, and it has a plastic label on it.
The problem is the device is coming out of the oven skewed and violating IPC
610D. The pad diameter is exactly what is recommended by the datasheet
(.085-inches). The TI datasheet recommended a 0.080-0.085 diameter aperture @
six mils. Originally my EMS had 0.085-inch @ 5 mils but changed the aperture to
a bull's-eye shape with the thought the bull's-eye would help center the device.
Both of the stencils have failed to draw the device to the center.
Because this is really a Butt Joint I am holding the EMS to no side overhang.
This is causing them quite a headache. They have also not come up with a viable
solution either.
Here is the link to the data sheet
http://www.emerson.com/sites/network_power/en-US/Products/Product_Detail
/Product1/Documents/PTH03050%20DC-DC%20Converter/PTH03050%20Data%20Sheet
.pdf
Has anybody used these devices with good results? If so can you share your
methodology?
Thanks in advanced,
Russell Nowland
Alcatel-Lucent
Advanced Manufacturing Engineer
Address: 14000 Quail Spring Parkway, Suite 300 Oklahoma City, OK 73134
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