Having lemon-lawed a 2005 ES330 Lexus specifically for Unintended
Acceleration, I would love to see it!
Bob Croslin
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Yes, it's a whitewash job, IMHO. I invited Dr Gilbert to our weekly tin
whiskers telecon last week. He was very humble and forthcoming on what
he knew and what he did not know.
He shared pictures of the APP (accelerator pedal module) which has SMT
resistors and caps and a small SOIC package that converts two redundant
Hall sensors that the magnets attached to the pedals move by. That
results in a 1-4Vdc signal. Tin plated connector soldered to the board.
Plenty of locations for whisker shorts to do what Toyota's so-called
expert said "can't possibly happen".
If you would like to see the pictures and his technical report I'd be
happy to share them with you.
Bob Landman
H&L Instruments, LLC
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On Mar 18, 2010, at 12:48 PM, Chris Mahanna <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> Has anyone else reviewed the Toyota slideshow and related PR on the
> Dr. Gilbert debunking?
>
> http://pressroom.toyota.com/pr/tms/document/Exponent_ProfGilbert_8Mar1
> 0.pdf
>
> As part of their "defense" they have totally laid-out the fault tree
> and required sequencing.
> Assuming that it is an under-hood box, with a little material and
> process information (like finish, solder, laminate, compliant pin?) it
> appears to me to likely be a quick FA.
> The fact that there is complete silence about any (IMO obvious) FA
> hypothesis is very intriguing.
>
> Although I have no specific information!, I think it highly unlikely
> that Toyota doesn't know the root (electronic) cause for at least some
> of them.
> If Michael Pecht or one of my competitors has their hands on a faulty
> unit the public should know the answer soon enough. If not, it
> probably means tort beat quality one more time (aren't they supposed
> to work in consort!?)
>
> I think it will be very interesting to see how the legislators and
> regulators handle such a situation.
>
> Chris
>
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